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    Common Problems VT VX VY VZ

    Hi Everyone, I will be listing here common problems with VT, VX, VY and VZ. This page will be updated with time
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    VT's and VX's

    Gen III Vibration - Some VT's and VX's may suffer from an excessive vibration, which is felt within the vehicle. Vibrations maybe felt when A. The vehicle is stationary with the engine idling in gear and the A/C is on , B. When the idle speed drops during automatic gear selection and/or a steering load is applied, or C. During slow acceleration or low speed driving in a low gear, with engine speed between 650 and 1000 rpm. Several areas may cause these issues. One area is the PCM calibration, which was later revised with improved idle speed control. Another area may be a stressed exhaust system. A Bent catalytic converter bracket is an indication that exhaust stress is evident (this should be straight). Spacers can be added to keep this bracket straight when bolted in place.

    Catalytic Converter bracket bolt - Part number 90495649
    Flat washer (spacer) - Part number 120394

    Along with a sequence of loosening and retightening exhaust and mount bolts, extra bolts were added to the rear gearbox mount.

    Gearbox mount bolt - Part number 92138301
    Gearbox mount nut - Part number 11086962 (torque to 45-55 Nm

    Gen III Belt Squeal - In some cases, Gen III engine serpentine belts will squeal at around 1500 to 1900 rpms. The squeal can occur if the power steering pump pulley is misaligned with the crank pulley and the alternator pulley. The pump pulley may be too close to the pump body or too far forward. This can cause the belt to not track straight and will rub on the front or rear flange of the pulley. An adjustment of the power steering pump pulley (between 1 – 3mm) may be required, to re-align the pulleys.

    Some Gen III Automatics may develop a belt chirp/squeal under hard acceleration, during the 1-2 shift.
    Decreased damping of the belt tensioner increases this condition, so a revised belt tensioner with increased damping was introduced early 2002.

    Belt Tensioner - Part No 92111701

    Rough Idle or Hissing Noise (Gen III) - Some Gen III's may experience rough idle, a high pitched hissing noise and the engine check lamp illuminates on the dash. The PCV (positive cranck case ventilation) pipe may deteriorate, perish and fail causing these problems. A revised PCV pipe made of more durable material was released.

    PCV Pipe – Part number 12590632

    T-Bar shifters - Some VT's have a rattle from the T/bar shifter. This may be cause by the pin that joins the t/bar lever to the transmission selector linkage. Revised linkages were introduced mid 1998.
    V6 Selector Linkage - Part number 92048113
    V8 Selector Linkage - Part number 92048112
    In some VT's, a clunk may be heard from the shifter when moved into the park position. A transmission slider guide was introduced mid 1999.
    Transmission Slider Guide Clip - Part number 92059509


    Gearshift Knob Rattles Gen III Manual - The gearshift knob may vibrate to the point where it can generally be heard in 3rd or 4th gear at wide open throttle between 2500 to 4000 rpm. This condition is a result of excessive clearance between the shifter knob and the shifter lever. From March of 2002, gearshift knobs were glued on.

    Gearshift Rattles Gen III Manual - Under certain driving conditions some VT's may develop a rattling gear shift lever. This condition is different to gear knob rattle. The cause of the rattle may be due to excessive clearances in the remote shifter linkages. A revised remote shifter was introduced late 2003 to eliminate rattles.

    Shifter Upgrade Kit VT/VX type - Part number 92147248

    Soft or Low Clutch Pedal (Gen III) - In some VY's, the clutch pedal may feel soft and/or has a low disengagement point, along with some difficulty selecting gears. A cause of this can be the clutch slave cylinder. In certain situations, a corrosive chemical reaction can occur between the clutch fluid and the clutch slave cylinder housing. This chemical reaction can produce a gas in the hydraulic system that can give a soft or spongy feel to the clutch pedal. A revised clutch slave cylinder was released late 2003. The new cylinder was made of a different alloy, and was more resistant to chemical reactions.

    Clutch Slave cylinder assembly (revised alloy) – Part number 92067460

    Excessive Gear or Road Noise from Shifter Area (6 speed Manual) - Some VT's may have excessive road or gear noise coming from the transmission shifter area. This can be caused by a split inner boot, or a loose retainer plate. A revised gearshift boot and retainer plate was introduced early in 2002, which is of a more durable material (white in colour), and the retainer plate has 4 studs and nuts (instead of 4 holes and nutserts in the sheet metal).

    Gearshift Boot Assembly (4 holes in retainer plate – no studs) up to vin # L832048 - Part number 92145520

    Gearshift Boot Assembly (4 studs in retainer plate) From vin # L832048- Part number 92065868

    Clutch Growl (5.0ltr V - A growl like noise (from the pedal area) may be heard when the clutch pedal is released at mid to high revs. Apparently this is caused by the clutch pressure plate, and the noise is transferred to the hydraulic clutch system. A hydraulic damper was released to help reduce this noise.
    Damper and pipe assembly - Part number 92082692
    Clutch pedal Squeak - The clutch pedal to clutch master cylinder pushrod pivot pin and bush may become dry and squeak. Applying Molybond GA10 Grease to the pin and bush will help reduce squeaks.
    Spigot Bearing Noise - A squeal may be heard from the spigot bearing, at the first use of the clutch pedal after a cold start. The noise may repeat several times when the clutch is disengaged, during engine warm- up. Possible causes can be the incorrect fitment or damage to the spigot bush, or the lubricant used on the spigot bush dries out. Revised tooling was introduced to minimize possible damage, and the spigot bushes are now impregnated with synthetic oil (10% molybdenum disulphide).

    Spigot Bush - Part number 92116034
    Gear Engagement (Gen III Manual) - Some VT's may have trouble selecting reverse gear, or the selector does not go into reverse completely. When the clutch is released, grinding of the gears may be heard if reverse isn't fully engaged. The gear selector may also need to be physically held in reverse to use the gear. A possible cause can be a circlip missing from the forward pivot of the shifter rail. A missing circlip can allow the gearshift pivot pin to partially disengage and become loose, making gear selection difficult.

    If excessive effort is used for gear changes, the Remote Shifter Mechanism front pivot ball may dislodge from the nylon retainer. If the pivot ball dislodges, no gear selection would be possible. A metal reinforcing plate was introduced to prevent the ball from dislodging.

    Gen III Vibration - Some VT's may suffer from an excessive vibration, which is felt within the vehicle. Vibrations may be felt when A. The vehicle is stationary with the engine idling in gear and the A/C is on , B. When the idle speed drops during automatic gear selection and/or a steering load is applied, or C. During slow acceleration or low speed driving in a low gear, with engine speed between 650 and 1000 rpm. Several areas may cause these issues. One area is the PCM calibration, which was later revised with improved idle speed control. Another area may be a stressed exhaust system. A Bent catalytic converter bracket is an indication that exhaust stress is evident (this should be straight). Spacers can be added to keep this bracket straight when bolted in place.

    Catalytic Converter bracket bolt - Part number 90495649
    Flat washer (spacer) - Part number 120394

    Along with a sequence of loosening and retightening exhaust and mount bolts, extra bolts were added to the rear gearbox mount.

    Gearbox mount bolt - Part number 92138301
    Gearbox mount nut - Part number 11086962 (torque to 45-55 Nm)

    Hand Brake Scrape - Intermittent scraping noises may be heard from the rear of the car while driving. The noise may appear to go away after re-applying hand brake lever. The front lining of the hand brake shoe may contact the inner drum of the rear disc without the hand brake being applied. In mid 2004, a spring was added into production to centralise the park brake shoe in the drum, and reduce the chance of contact when the hand brake is not applied.

    Brake Line Rattles - During ABS operation, the brake pipes located near the fire wall can vibrate or rattle, which may be heard from inside the vehicle. Extra brake line support clips can be added to reduce brake line movement.

    Brake line clip - Part number 92138181

    Starting Problems - Some starting issues can be cause by the BCM (Body Control Module). The BCM may electronically lock up or freeze (caused by voltage spikes), which may restrict starting, locking and unlocking etc. Some BCM's were returned under warranty because of these issues. In some situations, the key reader circuit ban be a potential source of a voltage spike, and a grounding patch harness was released to reduce this occurrance.

    VTII Body Control Module Mid Series - Part number 92145251

    VTII Body Control Module Low Series - Part number 92145250

    GEN III O2 Sensors - Some Gen III Automatics will experience water contamination on the LH O2 sensor plug, which can cause O2 sensor faults. This problem may be a result of the A/C drain tube in the transmission tunnel, as it is in the same proximity as the O2 sensor harness. A bracket was introduced for the O2 sensor connector that will position it away from the A/C drain tube.
    O2 Sensor Connector Mounting Kit – Part number 92145044
    O2 sensor LH - Part number 25326439
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    Steering Knock - After long drives, or high operating temperatures, some VT's have an audible clunk in the front end, that may be felt through the steering wheel on turns. A possible cause can be excessive movement of the inner tie rod end of the steering rack. A revised tierod was introduced into new steering racks early in 2001.
    Power Steering Rack up to vin # L492504 (12/08/99) - Part number 92057321

    Power Steering Rack from vin # L492505 (12/08/99) - Part number 92092815

    Variable Effort Power Steering Rack (Option NV7) - Part number 92092816

    Radius rod bushes - The radius rod (aka strut rod aka strut bar) is the bar that joins the front lower control arm to the front of the engine cross member. The front bush that bolts to the engine cross member is hydraulic. In other words it is oil filled. These are quite common wear points in VT's, as the rubber splits and perishes. New ones are relatively simple to fit. The bushes on the rear of the radius rod (into the lower control arm) commonly wear as well. As these bushes wear, the lower control arm can move rearward during braking (sometimes dramatically... 10mm is not uncommon) and a clunk is heard. These will affect wheel alignment.

    Front Inner control arm bushes - The front lower control arm is bushed to the engine cross member. The bushes commonly wear, which allows the inner of the lower control arm to move forward and rearward, similar to the radius rod bushes. These will affect wheel alignment.

    Gen III Air Conditioning rumble - Some VT's may have a rumble type noise coming from the dash area when the Air Conditioning is on. A possible cause can be the TX valve of the Air Conditioning Unit. A revised Eaton Brand TX valve (92116220) was introduced January 2002, and a further revision was introduced in April 2002, with the use of a TGK Brand TX valve (92117402) as used in VX V6's from April 2002 onwards.

    Climate Control Thud - Series II VT Berlina's and Calais' (10/1999 onwards) with Climate Control may have a light thud noise when the ignition is turned off, or intermittently, during mode changes. The cause of this noise can be the rapid closing of the previously open mode door. The rate of closure is controlled by air entry into the vacuum solenoid module. The vacuum solenoid module was revised in VT series II models, and had a 6 solenoid vacuum module assembly instead of the earlier 5 solenoid style. An additional foam pad was needed for the 6 solenoid vacuum module to reduce the thud, and is placed over the existing foam pads in the vacuum solenoid module. Revised six pack solenoids (with foam) were introduced mid 2001.

    Climate Control Solenoid Foam Pad - Part number 92144689

    Some early VT's with the 5 solenoid vacuum module may also suffer from similar thud noises. A vacuum delay kit was introduced to reduce thuds.

    Vacuum delay kit - Part number 92144219


    Air Conditioning Vibration (Gen III) - In some VT's, a vibration may be felt inside the vehicle while idling in Drive, with air conditioning on. A possible cause could be the plastic end tanks of the radiator contacting the mounting brackets on the radiator support panel. It may also be the radiator retaining clips contacting the plastic end tanks, instead of just the locating rubber. Careful bending of the support brackets will increase clearances (3mm suggested minimum clearance between mounting bracket and tank. 1mm suggested minimum clearance between retaining clips and tank).

    Air Conditioning Vibration (5.0ltr V - Some early VT V8's may vibrate or rumble when the air conditioning is on, and the engine is around 1500rpm's. A support brace was added in late 1998 to improve compressor mounting rigidity.
    A/C Compressor Brace - Part number 92078943

    Air conditioning belt tensioner 5.0ltr V8 - The air conditioning tensioner pulley bearing can fail and seize, which increases belt heat and reduces belt grip. This can restrict air conditioning output. These pulleys should be checked if the air con output is inadequate. Belt condition and tension should also be checked.

    Now for VX's
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    Thanks very much for this looking forward to VZ. Where are you getting the info from?


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    dear oh dear !
    Last edited by 1SIKR8; 30-12-2011 at 05:50 PM. Reason: realized above included VX .... fail
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strick View Post
    Thanks very much for this looking forward to VZ. Where are you getting the info from?
    no problems mate, I'm getting them from a website and confirming them through holden's workshop manual's
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    VY's

    Rough Idle or Hissing Noise (Gen III) - Some Gen III's may experience rough idle, a high pitched hissing noise and the engine chack lamp illuminates on the dash. The PCV (positive cranckcase ventilation) pipe may deteriorate, perish and fail causing these problems. A revised PCV pipe made of more durable material was released. This only applies to Series I VY's, as the Series II version has a different PCV system.

    PCV Pipe – Part number 12590632

    Exhaust Rattles Gen III - The front exhaust pipe heat shields (long type) fitted to Series II VY's can rattle if the internal insulator pads become detached. In late 2003, short type heat shields were introduced, along with under floor reflective foil insulators. Early in 2004, the front exhaust pipe heat shields and foils were removed in favour of floor mounted bolt on heat shields.

    Short type heat shield kit RH (contains 2 halves and 4 nuts) - Part number 92210214

    Short type heat shield kit LH (contains 2 halves and 4 nuts) - Part number 92210217

    Self adhesive reflective foil - Part number 92056511

    Gearshift Rattles Gen III Manual - Under certain driving conditions some VY's may develope a rattling gear shift lever. This condition is different to gear knob rattle. The cause of the rattle may be due to excessive
    clearances in the remote shifter linkages. A revised remote shifter was introduced late 2003 to eliminate rattles.

    Shifter Upgrade Kit - Part number 92147246

    Soft or Low Clutch Pedal (Gen III) - In some VY's, the clutch pedal may feel soft and/or has a low disengagement point, along with some difficulty selecting gears. A cause of this can be the clutch slave cylinder. In certain situations, a corrosive chemical reaction can occur between the clutch fluid and the clutch slave cylinder housing. This chemical reaction can produce a gas in the hydraulic system that can give a soft or spongy feel to the clutch pedal. A revised clutch slave cylinder was released late 2003. The new cylinder was made of a different alloy, and was more resitant to chemical reactions.

    Clutch Slave cylinder assembly (revised alloy) – Part number 92067460

    Engine Fan Stays On - VY's built between Jan 2003 and July 2003 may have a faulty low speed engine fan relay. Internal contamination of the relay may cause it to remain on, even after the ignition is switched off, causing the engine fan to remain on and flattening the battery.

    Low Speed Cooling Fan Relay - Part number 92092445

    Radio Control Buttons - In some VY's, pressing the Horn pad may activate the top (mode or mute) radio remote buttons. It is possible that incorrect assembly of the radio remote switches to the steering wheel may result in reduced clearances between the horn pad and the switches. Assembly proceedures were revised late 2002, along with a revised horn pad with increased clearances.

    Radio Loses time/CD will not Eject - In some VY's, the clock radio (Blaupunkt unit) may lose time or the CD might not eject. Revised software was release by Blaupunkt late 2003 to overcome these conditions.

    Horn Pad - Rarely, A VY may intermittently sound the horn on its own. A cause of this can be the barcode label on the back of the steering wheel, which is metallic. If an edge of the label curls up (during warmer temperatures), it can come into contact with the horn bar contact, causing the horn to sound. In January 2003, the barcode lables were relocated away from this area.


    Power Antenna - In some VY's, the power antenna may go up by itself, and the radio turns on. A cause for this can be water entry into the power antenna connector plug, located in behind the left front wheel well area. Cleaning the electrical connector and applying insulating electrical grease should rectify the problem.

    Radio Volume - Some radios may experience erratic or intermittent volume operation. The volume may increases to maximum, the volume indicator may increase to maximum while the radio mutes, or the radio may mute of it's own accord. A cause of this can be a grounded or shorted speaker wire/circuit.

    Holden Assist - Early Telematics software may behave incorrectly during times of low GPS signal strength. This can result in Holden Assist advising vehicle owners that invalid location information is being received from their vehicle, when the Holden Assist button is pressed. Revised software was introduced mid 2003.

    Fuel Guage Intermittently Incorrect - The fuel gauge may be inaccurate in the area below a quarter of a tank. The cause of this can be the calibration of the fuel gauge. Revised fuel gauge calibration was introduced late in 2003 (except supercharged V6 models).

    Cruise Control Thud - A thud or knock may be heard when the cruise control is activated or deactivated, if there is insufficient clearance between the cruise control module and the mounting bracket under the bonnet. A washer was added into production mid 2004 to increase the clearance between module and bracket.

    Washer - Part number 92094572

    Steering Rack Boots (Gen III) - Some VY steering rack boots may be damaged by excessive heat from the exhaust system. VY's with extractors are more susceptible to heat damage. Revised silicone steering rack boots were released and are more durable.

    Steering Rack Boot - Part number 92146712

    Rear Suspension Knock Gen III Manual - V8 manual VY's may experience a loud knock from the rear of the car during hard acceleration from a standing start. In some cases (11/02 to 02/03), the rear crossmember insulators may be missing, allowing the crossmember to knock against the rear floor area. In this case, insulators should be installed.

    Rear Crossmember Insulator- Part number 90447991

    Rear Crossmember Bolt - part number 92038482

    Front Sway bar links - VY front sway bar links are rubber mounted to the strut housing. These rubbers are a common failure, as they can over squash and split. New rubbers were introduced early 2003, made of revised rubber with increased hardness, reduced compression set and improved high temperature performance.
    Sway Bar link bush - Part number 92159373

    Air Conditioning Vibration (Gen III) - In some VY's, a vibration may be felt inside the vehicle while idling in Drive, with air conditioning on. A possible cause could be the plastic end tanks of the radiator contacting the mounting brackets on the radiator support panel. It may also be the radiator retaining clips contacting the plastic end tanks, instead of just the locating rubber. Careful bending of the support brackets will increase clearances (3mm suggested minimum clearance between mounting bracket and tank. 1mm suggested minimum clearance between retaining clips and tank).

    Dash Whistle - A whistle may be heard while the heater/AC fan is in use, and the whistle may increase as the fan speed increases. The plastic housing of the heater/AC unit may distort, producing small 1mm to 2mm gaps. These gaps can be the cause of the whistling. In early 2004, extra screws were added to the housing assembly to reduce distortion.

    Fluttering Dash Noise (Series II) - A fluttering noise may be heard from the dash when the blower fan is on high, the mode is set to demist/floor, and the engine is at idle speed. This may be cause by the floor mode door fluttering or vibrating against it's stop position. In mid 2004, the floor mode door actuator (black actuator rod) was replaced with the same actuator as used on the face mode door (white actuator rod).

    Vacuum actuator - Part number 92140681

    Front Door Wind Noise - VY's may have excessive wind noise from either of the front door areas. The main areas that can cause wind noise are

    1. A gap between the glass guide rail (rear of glass) and the glass. Urethane can be applied between glass and guide rail to seal gaps.

    2. A gap between the centre pillar weather strip and the glass guide rail. The centre pillar weather strip can be adjusted if the gap is excessive.

    3. A gap between the top door weatherstrip and the door panel (in front of the mirror). The door rubber can be removed and repositioned if a gap is present.

    Door Lock - The door locks may intermittently stop locking or unlocking, due to insufficient tolerances in the door lock mechanism. Door lock mechanisms with modified operating clearances were introduced early 2004.

    Rear doors - Some VY rear doors may be hard to close, may leak water or have misaligned upper door seals. The rear door glass has one stopper in the front channel to stop the glass at the end of its run. This may allow the rear of the glass to over travel deforming the door frame weather seal. VY's with electric windows are more likely to be affected due to the higher closing force of the window. A stopper was introduced into the rear channel so that the window travel can be limited at both edges.

    Window Glass Stop Nut – Part number 90224863

    Window Glass Stop Screw – Part number 92138330

    Water in Bootlid - It may be possible for water to enter into the boot lid panel. If the sealer between the inner and outer skin has not been applied completely, water may enter between the skins. The inner boot skin drain holes are another area where water may enter into the boot lid. The drain holes were only needed in the production process, when the bootlids were dipped for corrosion protection. If the drain holes at either side of the front edge of the bootlid (next to the rear wind screen) have not been sealed over, water can enter.
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    VZ's

    Incorrect Fuel Guage Reading - If the fuel level float arm was bent during factory installation, the fuel guage may read higher than the actual amount of fuel in the tank. To overcome this issue, the fuel lever float arm will need to be re-bent to it's original shape.

    Starting Problem (GEN III) - The starter motor may intermittently behave as if the vehicle has a flat battery, even though the battery is in good operating condition. A possible cause of this can be the Powertrain Interface Module (PIM), located next to the steering column. Components in the PIM may be poorly grounded and be sensitive to static. A revised PIM with improved components was released to overcome this issue.

    PIM - Part number 92199158

    Front Bumper Stain - Models fitted with a chrome bonnet mould may have staining or discolouration of the front bumper. A possible cause may be processing fluid left over from the production of the chrome mould, slowly leaking out onto the bumper. In October 2004, chrome moulds with the processing fluid removed, were used.

    Chrome Bonnet Moulding - Part number 92211005

    Water in Bootlid - It may be possible for water to enter into the boot lid panel. If the sealer between the inner and outer skin has not been applied completely, water may enter between the skins. The inner boot skin drain holes are another area where water may enter into the boot lid. The drain holes were only needed in the production process, when the bootlids were dipped for corrosion protection. If the drain holes at either side of the front edge of the bootlid (next to the rear wind screen) have not been sealed over, water can enter.

    Steering Column Rattle - A buzzing noise may be heard fron the steering column area, when driving at highway speeds and/or on coarse bitumen roads. A possible cause may be the steering column adjuster spring rattling/vibrating against the steering column housing. In this situation, cable tying the two sides of the spring together may help.

    Phone Storage Compartment - The storage compartment lid may not function correctly, due to detachment of one or both linkage arms. In September 2004, phone storage compartments with revised linkage arms were used.

    Linkage Arms - Part number 92148008
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    excellent information!
    woulld have been nice to know this (especially the gearbox mount bolt and nut part numbers as mine needed replacing when i got it)
    i have a rattle when idling with aircon on, but it sounds to be from within the cabin...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1SIKR8 View Post
    dear oh dear !
    Hi mate, just to clarify that most only apply to early vx's but funny enough some was also on vy's
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    Quote Originally Posted by akanives View Post
    excellent information!
    woulld have been nice to know this (especially the gearbox mount bolt and nut part numbers as mine needed replacing when i got it)
    i have a rattle when idling with aircon on, but it sounds to be from within the cabin...
    Cheers mate, i will list on another post all part numbers for vt, vx, vy, vz parts that are commonly replaced
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