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    New detailing products to try.

    Hello everyone, has been a while since I wrote the detailing products basics thread so I thought I'd showcase a few new products for you guys to try. 2018 was a really good year for detailing products coming to Australia, as we usually have to wait months/years to get certain brands/products.

    P&S Beadmaker - This is a short-term sealant, that works really well over durable sealants and coatings as well as stand-alone. Application is a breeze with two plush microfiber towels just liberally spray over the entire panel and I mean liberally get that thing just about dripping off and then work it in for 30-60s, if you're in humid conditions (say above 60%) spray most of the product into your towel rather than the panel, and then follow up with your second towel and go over the area. Once you go past with your second towel you will be amazed at the slickness, it is like nothing else out there. You do tend to use a lot of product, but it's relatively well priced - 1gal = $60, but this is a must try product! I bought this from carcareco.com.au

    CarPro Ech2o - This is a waterless wash but I don't really actually use it for that purpose, instead this has made quick-detailer completely obsolete. You can clean EXTERIOR gla-ss on a 40'c day in direct sunlight 100% streak free, which no other gla-ss cleaner I have tried can, with its lubricity you can quite safely clean door/trunk jambs, quick run over of everything painted/trim in your engine bay which no quick-detailer can. It leaves a really nice gloss behind, especially on gla-ss, and has very decent beading properties where after a fresh application I don't have to use my wipers above 45kmh. Best ratio I've found is 1:15, and at that rate will last you a really long time, you can buy this from Waxit.com.au for $21 in a 500ml concentrate bottle. A streak free finish is achieved when mixed with distilled water not tap water fyi.

    P&S Brake Buster - This is a non-acidic wheel cleaner which is well priced, I personally use this now and if you're wheels and calipers are ceramic coated you'll typically be able to do a spray n' rinse application which saves a lot of time. This isn't your typical colour-changing deal that most companies are making, and most people use, and while there's nothing wrong with that those products are generally quite a bit more expensive; so if you're wanting to find something cheaper that works really well try this out. $50 1gal at carcareco.com.au currently on sale for $39 15/3/19.

    CarPro Elixir - This is another quick detailer/sealant product, the basis of this was actually made by a customer of CarPro who mixed CarPro Reload and Ech2o and then wrote about it on their forums. The result down the line was CarPro made their own batch of it and made it better, and in simple form it has the ease of use of Ech2o but the durability of Reload. 500ml bottle from Waxit.com.au $27.25.

    CarPro Multi X - This is a very strong APC, I currently use this in a 15:1 mix for engine bays, suspension components, tyres etc. Most of the time when I clean tyres one pas s with a regular APC will get it fairly clean but won't get everything, a second pas s will get close to 90% but still leaves something behind, this takes care of that. Be careful when using on sensitive surfaces like interior leather which I would definitely refrain from, just use a weaker APC but if you have nothing left do a 60:1 or higher ratio and test it first. 500ml bottle from Waxit.com.au $24.45.

    Concours Clarity - This is an oil remover/paint prep which is used before you apply a coating or any paint protection really, or to remove polishing oils to check your work. It works great for that, but this product has completely replaced gla-ss cleaner in my arsenal, it's cheap, serves many purposes, and it can be used in direct sunlight in 40'c heat for interior gla-ss. 4L from Waxit.com.au $60, currently on sale with a Kwazar sprayer for $65 15/3/19.

    The Rag Company Towels - These are the best towels you'll ever buy! I have replaced my entire towel set with these Korean-made plush boys, I will list my most used but they have quite a few other towels for you to check out. Sold by carcareco.com.au :

    Eagle Edgeless 500 - This is the updated version that made them world famous for microfiber many years ago. A very soft, plush 500gsm towel and is my personal last touch towel meaning it only ever touches a car that has been thoroughly cleaned, I use two of them to apply P&S Beadmaker which is a match made in heaven. Very expensive so look after them, washed separately. $10 ea or $47 in a 5-pack, come in 4 different colours.

    Eagle Edgeless 350 - Exactly the same as the eagle 500, but a lighter weight coming in at 350gsm for those who don't like them too plush. $9 ea or $42 in a 5-pack, they come in purple.

    Platinum Pluffle - This is a mix between a waffle-weave towel and the eagle edgeless plush material. It can absorb up to 11x its weight which makes it very good as a drying towel. It wont dry as quickly as the Concours Tempest on a car with no paint protection, so best used on cars that are waxed/sealed/coated. She comes in 3 sizes, the best for drying an entire car being 50cmx100cm, the 16x16" size works really well for smaller jobs like door jambs. 16x16" is $10, 50x100cm is $30.

    The Black/Blue Diamond - This is a very short nap gla-ss towel which has a diamond pattern in its nap. Some people do not like these types of towels as they can be very grabby on gla-ss, the diamond pattern has pretty much solved this so long as when you use it the towel is completely saturated in cleaner, if you use it slightly dry it will begin to grab. I personally use this on the interior gla-ss and it does a really good job at cleaning. 16x16" $5, 16x24" $7.75.

    Spectrum 420 - This is a dual-pile towel meaning it has a plush and short side. This is still a really high quality towel for their lower end products and I personally use this as my wheel towel. $5.45.

    Edgeless 300 - This is a really high quality cheap towel but not to be confused with their top towel range the eagle, it comes in a 10-pack in two different colours and weighs in at 300gsm which is perfect for interiors and polishing. I personally use blue for paint, and yellow for interior. 1 towel $3, 10-pack $26.55

    Microfiber Madness Incredipad XL - This is an extremely high quality wash pad, it is larger than most mitts you might be used to and does not have a space for your hand, but as long as you're careful not to drop it it will provide the safest wash as it provides a lot of soft material between you and the panel. I personally find this to be the best wash pad as it has the perfect blend of size and weight, some wash pads can get very heavy when soiled with water and just makes your wash process unnecessarily hard. $40 from Primefinish.com.au
    2016 VF Clubsport LSA - FI Interchiller & Lid spacer & 12L res, 18% Crank OD, Harrop Pod Intake making 552.8rwhp. Best time = 12.171 @115.26mph 1.836 60' on a street tyre *with Chiller only*

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    Great write up, thanks!

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    I found the P&S Beadmaker was also ideal for claybar use. Seemed to glide better than the sprays supplied by Mothers or Meguiars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aus78Formula View Post
    I found the P&S Beadmaker was also ideal for claybar use. Seemed to glide better than the sprays supplied by Mothers or Meguiars.
    Another use or option for a great product. If you are polishing after claying I would advise against using Beadmaker or any type of paint-protection as it leaves protection behind which can alter the way your polish and pad behaves until it has been removed. I'm not a fan of claying paint unless following with at the very least a quick 1-step polish, I've tried that many products and have always found that claying does leave marring/hazing behind.

    Personally after I have washed my car, I'll then continue using the soap in my wash bucket to clay with, as NV Snow has more than enough lubricants to keep clay moving, it's also quite cheap, and means one less product in the polishing process.
    2016 VF Clubsport LSA - FI Interchiller & Lid spacer & 12L res, 18% Crank OD, Harrop Pod Intake making 552.8rwhp. Best time = 12.171 @115.26mph 1.836 60' on a street tyre *with Chiller only*

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    Just a shittty daily driver covered in stone chips courtesy of the fake advertising of ceramic coating, it's not at all an issue to be concerned with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adzy_b View Post
    Another use or option for a great product. If you are polishing after claying I would advise against using Beadmaker or any type of paint-protection as it leaves protection behind which can alter the way your polish and pad behaves until it has been removed. I'm not a fan of claying paint unless following with at the very least a quick 1-step polish, I've tried that many products and have always found that claying does leave marring/hazing behind.

    Personally after I have washed my car, I'll then continue using the soap in my wash bucket to clay with, as NV Snow has more than enough lubricants to keep clay moving, it's also quite cheap, and means one less product in the polishing process.
    What would you recommend for trying to keep my 2016 White HSV clean? It lives outside near gum trees so it is dirty the day after it is cleaned. The main problem is the bee poo that has to be clay barred off.

    So I wash it, usually with a Meguires snow job and microfibre sponge, clay bar it to get rid of the final bee poo, then wax it with a Mothers liquid wax. Naturally, this take a while. I'd like to get the surface as smooth as possible so the dirt can quickly and regularly hosed off between washes. What do you think?

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    Buy a good cover, mine also lives outside with a car craft cover. it will make you life lot easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aus78Formula View Post
    Just a shittty daily driver covered in stone chips courtesy of the fake advertising of ceramic coating, it's not at all an issue to be concerned with.
    That sucks man! I have mates and family members who are in the same boat.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bud977 View Post
    What would you recommend for trying to keep my 2016 White HSV clean? It lives outside near gum trees so it is dirty the day after it is cleaned. The main problem is the bee poo that has to be clay barred off.

    So I wash it, usually with a Meguires snow job and microfibre sponge, clay bar it to get rid of the final bee poo, then wax it with a Mothers liquid wax. Naturally, this take a while. I'd like to get the surface as smooth as possible so the dirt can quickly and regularly hosed off between washes. What do you think?
    Regular washing is always the best thing, so you’re ticking that box but the best thing for preventing poop/stains or environmental defects is your paint protection. The next time you clay your car follow up with a full NV Clarity panel wipe down, it will just remove any residue from anything that might be left after you wash and clay, at that point (without polishing) your paint will be completely bare which will allow any protection you apply to have the best chance of fully bonding and lasting the longest time it can.

    If your car is outside I would recommend NV Nova Jet, as my car is outside 24/7 and that’s what I use. Once I hit it with my pressure washer all loose dirt along with 90% of bird/bee poop runs off with the water, and then hand washing will remove the last bits without any scrubbing just gliding the mitt past. Any animal droppings need to be cleaned off ASAP as they’re extremely acidic and bond to surfaces quickly, so the sooner you clean them off the better.
    2016 VF Clubsport LSA - FI Interchiller & Lid spacer & 12L res, 18% Crank OD, Harrop Pod Intake making 552.8rwhp. Best time = 12.171 @115.26mph 1.836 60' on a street tyre *with Chiller only*

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    Cheers Adz. So I wash it, clay bar it, NV Clarity panel wipe down, then apply the NV Nova Jet as the protection? No waxing. Sounds like a plan. I'll get some of that Nova jet.

    It's harder to wash your car now that the Level 2 water restrictions have kicked in in Sydney. No hose or pressure washer allowed. Must be by hand and bucket. My wife can take her car to the local car wash, but mine's not going anywhere near it.
    Last edited by Bud977; 18-12-2019 at 11:07 AM.

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    I've never understood their ruling on using buckets. You use more water than a pressure washer, it seems like it's meant to deter you from washing at all rather than saving water if you choose to wash.

    Check with your local council but I know people rig up 20-30L containers, gravity fed to the pressure washer. Not connected via the drinking water supply hose so it's generally fine but definitely worth checking.







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