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  1. #11
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    If Euro 5 emissions is forcing HSVs hand with LS3 at 340kw, will Holden look at increasing output for the last few 'special ed's', or stay at 304. Can they increase output whilst maintaining or improving emissions?
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    No idea. I'd imagine it would be a costly exercise to get it approved for a minor increase. Not worthwhile if only a limited number of vehicles are getting that spec

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    I wonder if the old 325 tune would meet emissions, or even the 317?

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    The LS3 in the Holden 304kw and HSV 317, 325 and 340 kw have the same tune it was discussed on another forum a while back were a tuner compared the tunes/files. Holden measures its output in SAE while HSV use DIN, so the Holden LS3 which is 304kw SAE equates to 308kw DIN. The gain from 308kw to 317kw is from the HSV Tri Y headers, Holden use cast manifolds. The 325kw GTS gains an additional 8kw up from 317kw because of the 2.5” mid pipe and bi-modal mufflers. The gain to 340kw up from 325kw is from revised headers (2.5” outlet compared to 2.25”) and the bi-modal air intake.

    In saying all that, my guess is that the Holden LS3 304kw still meets the new emission regulations because of its cast manifolds, unless my above explanation is totally wrong and manifolds vs Tri Y makes no difference to emissions.

  5. #15
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    VF Final Editions - Holden

    No, HSV 340 (12656930) vs 2015 Commodore (1265877 is definitely different in areas that count.

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    SL/E 310 or 308 Pack.
    That's my guess.

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    Bathurst Edition?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HSVGTS125 View Post
    Bathurst Edition?
    thats what im betting on

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    In 2011 the Australian Government announced that Euro 5 emissions standards will commence in Australia for new model vehicles from 1 November 2013 and for existing models from 1 November 2016; Euro 6 emissions standards will commence for new model vehicles from 1 July 2017 and for existing models from 1 July 2018.
    Holden and HSV have stated the Black editions are the last of the engine and must be sold by end Oct 16, not sure how
    they will do that for 50 granges, I guess dealers will have a lot of demos please keep a red one for me, maybe but not for $95K.
    So if you put all Holden and HSV's statements and Euro 5 on the table will we see another change, engine only like the 6L?
    but the 6.2 will not cut it either, so what's next? for almost no cost increase.
    The VF needs to update. I just cant believe a Calais and SS would get a no frills LSA at say 360kws but the real cost would not be much and the old brick AKA Chrysler is 350kws.Fuel economy would be hard to get. ?

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    Holden will continue selling the 6.2, HSV's 340 tune is non-compliant.







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