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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by HSVGTS125 View Post
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    At the time an LS1 SS was a weapon
    if you got one that had pistons rings that did their job

    My Vx SS got TWO rebuilds.. and eventually a complete new engine the third time around
    as those engines drank oil about the same as petrol.

    5litres per 1000kms is AWESOME oil consumption
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    Quote Originally Posted by HSVGTS125 View Post
    The 220 exec/ SS did an awesome job in its day.
    At the time an LS1 SS was a weapon
    I had a VT SS back in 2001 and it was my first V8 so I really liked it.
    But recently I went and looked up old reviews and most of them said it was a slug. Remember the CB4 300kw GTS was out at the time with 0-100 in 5.1 so understandably the LS1 was a bit underwhelming in hindsight.

    Mine used about 1.5lires oil per 10,000.
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    I used to smoke heaps of LS cars with the 355 in my VP Senator 5000i and that was far from wild. Wasn't until cams became popular in them that the tables turned

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    The stock de-tuned LS1 from the VT2 & VX era are sluggish of the line. It was also the character of the motor to take a while for to wind up. It felt bogged down on take off, and only felt strong in the mid to high rev range..
    The HSV stroker 215i car could always beat it for fair distance in a street race, before it ran out of puff, and the LS1 started to make ground on the 215i car. I too have had experience in my Senator 5000i with 3.91 diff & crane cam in my 5000i motor, could beat the early LS1 tuned motor in a 200m drag

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    They would keep up till about 5000 rpm. Then would loose a car length as the ls1 had another 1000+ rpm left and at peak power.

    I would imagine stock vt11 auto ls1 to be quite sluggish. Ive only had manuals but.

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    I brought a brand new VX R8 manual 255 and there's no way any short geared 5 liter would have come near me. The VX has a stock 3.73 diff which made all the difference over the tall geared LS1 SS of 3.46. I struggle to believe the 5 liter would have beaten one of them too but I have had no personal experience on that comparison. After the R8 I had a VX GTS which truly was an awesome car. An engine light years ahead of any Holden engine power wise. Although I know about the piston slap oil use issues I never had any.
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    Power wise, not reliability wise though lol

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    The holden motor made good torque low down in it's rev range. That's what you need in a street race, to get your car moving off the line with momentum. The first Gen 3's in exec & SS form only have 220,225,235Kw with around 440Nm. My Vp 304ci has 225Kw with 430Nm. But the key was the holden motor having more low down torque. The better gearing from drive train & lighter vehicle all made the difference

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hsvvp5i View Post
    The holden motor made good torque low down in it's rev range. That's what you need in a street race, to get your car moving off the line with momentum. The first Gen 3's in exec & SS form only have 220,225,235Kw with around 440Nm. My Vp 304ci has 225Kw with 430Nm. But the key was the holden motor having more low down torque. The better gearing from drive train & lighter vehicle all made the difference
    That's right, the Holden motors make peak torque about 1000RPM before the LS motor does.
    As the old saying goes, Torque wins races, power wins at the pub.

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    Gotta disagree here with some of you.
    The LS engine would cream any 308/355 Holden engine,.....IMHO of course. That is not saying that the 355/220 stroker Holden engine wasn't a terrific engine,...because it was, everybody knows that, but time marches on, & the LS range of engines were simply newer, stronger, & possessed of all those years of engine development.
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