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GT OHHH!
29-07-2009, 05:33 PM
http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,25851213-5018894,00.html

HSV271
29-07-2009, 08:28 PM
Well.... It's official... http://www.v8supercars.com.au/content/hero_news/july_2009/red_letter_day_for_teamvodafone/

mobbzy
29-07-2009, 09:10 PM
haha its funny i used to back holden a long time ago then around 01-02 started backing ford and have ever since untill i decided to get a hsv and come over to the red side again.. its like iv been following lawndes lol

but whincup is my fav driver so im happy he is coming over :)

richo7502000
29-07-2009, 09:40 PM
hmmm Lowndes Back in the red army camp, wil be interested to see how the smiling assasin is welcomed back by die hard Holden fans, Im still undecided myself!!!

nonchalant
29-07-2009, 09:42 PM
Pfft..its not like Lowndes has any loyalties..

Gimme the good old days when drivers wouldnt dare step into another brand car because they believed in the product they were driving; and following a brand & driver as a spectator actually meant something, any day..

And as for Holden being 'home' to Lowndes thats a joke. He has been a Ford man for years, despite the fact Holden gave him his start in supercars & Brockie was his mentor. Its all commercialism & money today. Loyalty means nothing to these guys..

richo7502000
29-07-2009, 09:59 PM
Loyalty.....please!!!
Even Brock drove a BMW, a Sierra, and produced a Brock Falcon , and a friggin Lada Samara!!!!
Moffat Drove WITH Brock in a VK Commodore.
And even **** smack Johnson himself started in a Torana before going to the dark side!!!
And our beloved Walkinshaw producer of our loved cars was a Jaguar man!!! and is/was tied to Ford too overseas.
We all want these guys to be as one eyed as us, but Im afraid the buck is powerful since the mid 80's and these guys are professional money makers in driving whoever puts the best deal in front of them not their favourite Marque's like in the 60's and 70's.
I was born in 1972 and watched Brock win in his a9x in 1978 and have been a one eyed dinky dye Holden man since!!! Good luck to 888 and Lowndes but I aint gonna be an instant fan just cause hes back in red PJ's.

Teazer
30-07-2009, 04:15 PM
To this day it still amazes me how popular a two-horse race can be unless the driver is your main focus. But, given that the parity issue is consistently on the table, the competition can ill-afford to have one make dominate for too long. How many of you realise that as a result of this parity that in fact, the Holdens use a wishbone front-end set up of the Ford and not the McPherson strut design. In addition, the Holdens use pretty much the diff based on the Ford 9 inch(actually called Motif). I saw this with my own two eyes when given the tour of Walkinshaw Performance factory in Clayton last year. This was also verified in an email from TEGA. It's for these sorts of reasons that category has lost it's appeal to me.

troytroy
30-07-2009, 08:08 PM
My work mate is a diehard Ford/Lowndes/Vodaphone racing fan.

It's hilarious, he's been copping shit for the last couple of days for everyone. I'm buying him a HSV flag for him LOL

YGOSLO
30-07-2009, 08:42 PM
I think when you look at this commercial venture, Ford withdrew the sponsorship because Ford is unfinanacial. If you can't back the top Ford team at V8 Supercars there must be something drastically wrong, very wrong.

The underlying issue is, that if Ford backs out of the V8 game, which could happen what have we got left.

A competative motorsport program with many Manufactures like the British Touring Champs have.

How good was Bathhurst with BMWs, Cosworths, Jags and many more.

BRING IT ON!!!!!!!!!!

Regards

YGOSLO

richo7502000
30-07-2009, 08:49 PM
To this day it still amazes me how popular a two-horse race can be unless the driver is your main focus. But, given that the parity issue is consistently on the table, the competition can ill-afford to have one make dominate for too long. How many of you realise that as a result of this parity that in fact, the Holdens use a wishbone front-end set up of the Ford and not the McPherson strut design. In addition, the Holdens use pretty much the diff based on the Ford 9 inch(actually called Motif). I saw this with my own two eyes when given the tour of Walkinshaw Performance factory in Clayton last year. This was also verified in an email from TEGA. It's for these sorts of reasons that category has lost it's appeal to me.

There is extremely little Holden or Ford in the cars, my mate was at Perkins for years. The VR/VS was the last shells to be made as a shell then fitted with a cage, all others are cages with some panels hung on to make it resemble a Holden or Ford...
You right the front suspension is Ford "Style" the diff similar to an F100 axle tubes with an alloy 9" centre, running 4 Link Holden style rear arms and Ford style Watts Linkage bar. The Engines are only 5.0litre capacity and arent really Holden or Ford anymore.... so yes they arent what they appear, but Joe Punter doesnt know its different to his SS or XR8 so it sells lots of cars for both companies to guys like us who wanna drive somethin looking like a race car!! The truth is it would be more expensive for Holden and Ford to go back to the old 500 to be built of a model Homologation of the old days of Jags, sierras, and godzillas. But regardless of the fact the cars are a HRT or a 888 (NOT Holden or Ford) Im still one eyed "Holden" in the V8 supercars.

Teazer
30-07-2009, 10:22 PM
Which brings me to my next point - that the closest category resembling anything on the road is the production car class featuring HSV, FPV, Subaru, Nissan etc....but, unfortunately doesn't have the media attention, the $ or the big names of the V8 supercar category. Pity - because it's certainly more interesting and exciting seeing an HSV GTS going past a Subaru WRX down Conrod Straight!

BLOWNR8
02-08-2009, 09:41 PM
i rekn he can stay at ford! he declared his passion for ford when he left holdens b4... although when ur getting paid a shiat load of money to race, who cares wot ur driving???

murph_fan51
03-08-2009, 09:04 PM
Will be good to see Lowndes back, but remember he himself didn't choose to be back at Holden. He would have happily stayed at Ford if the 888 Vodafone team didn't shift to Holden!

PhanR8
03-08-2009, 10:46 PM
Point well made Murph.Pity some of the crowd at Sandown hadn't worked that out for themselves.

HRDHSV
03-08-2009, 11:05 PM
I thought it was very amusing seeing people still buying his ford 888 clothing on the weekend.

richo7502000
10-11-2009, 05:43 PM
Is it just me or is Lowndes becoming a dirty driver big time now, hes constantly spinning dudes out......

HRDHSV
10-11-2009, 07:06 PM
Where have you been Richo? he's been doing that for ages!

SLUG
11-11-2009, 08:54 AM
I think the whole 888 team are a bunch of sore losers who can't handle not being at the VERY TOP all of the time. I don't care what car they drive I will still like to see them down the order. These two guys are so used to winning all the time they don't know how to respond when their middle pack. Take last two races for eg with Whincup at Surfer's trying to pick up places taking cars out all over the place and Lowndes last race doing the same. Wished they stayed Ford actually.

BOSS GTS
11-11-2009, 04:29 PM
Is it just me or is Lowndes becoming a dirty driver big time now, hes constantly spinning dudes out......

Caterpillar brows has always tried to come across as Mr nice guy, however you only have to hear him squeal to his team when it takes him more than one go to pass another car to realise that he is a bloody whinger.

As far a turning Bargwanna around at PI, two wrongs don't make a right and he should have been penalised for turning "Bargs" around even as frustrated as he was.

I still believe that his intimidation factor when behind another car is what the V8's need more of with a little "rubbing".

SLUG
12-11-2009, 05:07 PM
Caterpillar brows has always tried to come across as Mr nice guy, however you only have to hear him squeal to his team when it takes him more than one go to pass another car to realise that he is a bloody whinger.

As far a turning Bargwanna around at PI, two wrongs don't make a right and he should have been penalised for turning "Bargs" around even as frustrated as he was.

I still believe that his intimidation factor when behind another car is what the V8's need more of with a little "rubbing".

Exactly my point, they both think it's their god given right to be allowed to pass without challenge. So so so right he does squeal like a 5 year old girl. He should have been black flagged for turning Bargs around, I know the commentators think he deserved it but thats wrong to do what he did.

murph_fan51
13-11-2009, 06:56 PM
Worse was Tim Slade taking out Murphy at that PI round, that was uncalled for, and he didn't get a penalty!!!

Don't want to go off topic, but did you see the Un-Safety Car fiasco last weekend! That was a close one!

VX15ANNIV
13-11-2009, 09:57 PM
murph who are you going to support if Murphy goes to ford, not sure if he is but I heard a rumour????As for the safety car some of the in car footage from the other cars coming up fast behind the lead cars, indicated it was much scarier or closer then I first thought.

murph_fan51
15-11-2009, 06:19 PM
Haha, I have heard that rumour, but I (and many others) don't see it happening. Murph is the face of Holden Motorsport and even HSV in New Zealand, I don't think Holden Motorsport in Australia will let him go to the dark side in a hurry,

Besides there are many spaces left in Holden teams for 2010, Kelly Racing, WOW Racing, WP Racing and SuperCheap Auto Racing!

My guess is he will join Fabian Coulthard at WP (Walkinshaw Performance) Racing (the sister team of HRT) so he should have some decent machinary there and go for some race wins!!

Check this link for the Saftey car debacle...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIfMIUSzjuc