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Sniper
19-09-2013, 02:32 PM
. . . Ed's GTS has arrived . . . watch how this thing gets developed over the coming weeks and months . . .:) . .

dgp
19-09-2013, 04:46 PM
I will definitely be subscribing to this thread. Thanks for the heads up.

Nitrate
19-09-2013, 04:50 PM
. . . Ed's GTS has arrived . . . watch how this thing gets developed over the coming weeks and months . . .:) . .

So your there, have you seen it, first impressions?

Pick us up from 'The Crown', lets go for a Ferris Bueller Ride, see you out the front @7.30pm....

lol I wish...

Strick
19-09-2013, 05:10 PM
The pic that starts it all:

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa318/Brady2806/For%20Sniper/photo42.jpg (http://s199.photobucket.com/user/Brady2806/media/For%20Sniper/photo42.jpg.html)

Sniper
19-09-2013, 05:25 PM
Thanks for posting the pic Brady . . . No I am not in Perth but I damn well should be . . . Ed is hoping to take delivery tomorrow arvo - lets hope that happens and I will do my best to keep up to date with everything as it happens

. . . More pics will head to Brady's "inbox" as soon as Ed has it

Strick
19-09-2013, 06:17 PM
And so they come:

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa318/Brady2806/For%20Sniper/photo45.jpg (http://s199.photobucket.com/user/Brady2806/media/For%20Sniper/photo45.jpg.html)

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa318/Brady2806/For%20Sniper/photo43.jpg (http://s199.photobucket.com/user/Brady2806/media/For%20Sniper/photo43.jpg.html)

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa318/Brady2806/For%20Sniper/photo44.jpg (http://s199.photobucket.com/user/Brady2806/media/For%20Sniper/photo44.jpg.html)

Geez it looks good in red, but pitty they arnt doing it in yellow!!! haha

HSV085
19-09-2013, 06:28 PM
Must admit im not really a fan of red, but damn the gen-f's look mint in that colour.

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gman1270
19-09-2013, 06:32 PM
I called in and intoduced myself to Ed on Tuesday, he would be a happy man as he thought it would be later next week. He explained that the first thing he'll be doing is throwing it on the dyno, then a progress of staged upgrades. Can hardly wait to hear the results.

jkhsv
19-09-2013, 06:33 PM
Graeme what are the upgrades planned ? Changing the 1900 to a 2300....

Looks hawt in red !!!!

gman1270
19-09-2013, 06:55 PM
I'ts an Auto as well so I'm happy.

d488y2
19-09-2013, 07:07 PM
Watching with Interest :D

Senator01
19-09-2013, 07:32 PM
What is Ed's intention? Track car? Useable daily? Or just an all out Dyno killer??

RedHotMike
19-09-2013, 07:51 PM
Have to admitt that I'm eagerly looking forward to what it pulls straight out of the box

Nitrate
19-09-2013, 07:57 PM
Man 'O' Man Dynomite!,,,,,,,,

That looks cool as....

scottcmb
19-09-2013, 07:57 PM
I'm looking forward to being able to get my hands on the Engine and Trans tune files ( Especially the Trans ) . Will be interesting to see if the torque vectoring for the diff is incorporated in these files......... but not counting on it. :)


Scotty :)

Sniper
19-09-2013, 08:57 PM
Graeme what are the upgrades planned ? Changing the 1900 to a 2300....

Looks hawt in red !!!!

We had a plan as Gman1270 has alluded too but you know Ed and he wants things to happen fast . . . and possiibly will leap frog a couple of stages but I hope not . . .

2300 upgrade wasn't part of any discussions we had . . . he is keeping the yellow E3 which has all is ultra Hiperformance bits to show customers . . .

I'm pretty sure he will get the VF into the 10's with the LSA base package with Cam, Exhaust, Pully, Airbox etc etc . . .

. . . and it wouldn't surprise me if it got a "Rotating Assembly" sometime in the near future

Sniper
19-09-2013, 08:59 PM
I called in and intoduced myself to Ed on Tuesday, he would be a happy man as he thought it would be later next week. He explained that the first thing he'll be doing is throwing it on the dyno, then a progress of staged upgrades. Can hardly wait to hear the results.

. . . .your certainly well placed to tap into a serious amount of data and fun . . He'll put a smile on your dial . .

gman1270
19-09-2013, 10:26 PM
. . . .your certainly well placed to tap into a serious amount of data and fun . . He'll put a smile on your dial . .

Agree 100% Sniper, what I like is what Ed asked to sound out what I wanted. I can see his excited as much as we are with the protential of what he can achieve. My smile is getting bigger just thinking about it.

johnfhall
19-09-2013, 10:49 PM
Fantastic! Red and black - mean.

Just hope I don't have camera shake when I take my first pics of my newie some time mid-October'ish.

jkhsv
20-09-2013, 02:44 PM
Be interesting to see what Ed's pulls on the dyno stock...by my calcs 430kW is approx. 320rwkw....that seems low for a blown engine ???

johnfhall
20-09-2013, 02:51 PM
Be interesting to see what Ed's pulls on the dyno stock...by my calcs 430kW is approx. 320rwkw....that seems low for a blown engine ???

It bloody better be low - someone told me me W427 should have around 330 stock and 360 with a mild tune only... I'll be REALLY disappointed if 320 is the go. The Bastards!

jkhsv
20-09-2013, 03:05 PM
My E3 GTS with LS3, cam, exhaust OTR and tune made 332rwkw..so I wouldn't be happy with 320 for $100k outlay but hey it is the overall package people are after right ?

Sniper
20-09-2013, 03:29 PM
My 427 made 311 stock and I am sure that Ed had one make 310 Stock on his Dyno . . . !!!

jkhsv
20-09-2013, 03:41 PM
So what do you think the GTS should make stock Graeme ?

moray066
20-09-2013, 05:11 PM
Can't wait to see what they are putting down, I think they will be around the 330rwkw mark. Looking at the times they are doing, 0-100 and 1/4 mile are also indicative of this figure.
You can't really compare the two cars, one is on its absolute limit (Harrop car) and the other is on its base line, just waiting for the right tweaks.
Still, either car would be welcome in my garage :)

Sniper
20-09-2013, 06:20 PM
Well, I just got the call and Ed is driving the GTS right now from Shacks to Active to run it on the Dyno . . . he luvs it and reckons its awesome

All being well I should have something from him in a couple of hours to report

. . . I hope Brady is around to post up images if they come to me from Ed's I-Phone . .

Sniper
20-09-2013, 06:49 PM
. . . well I think you will all be pleased . . . 348.7 RWKW or 467.5 RWHP . . .

Nitrate
20-09-2013, 06:54 PM
Well, I just got the call and Ed is driving the GTS right now from Shacks to Active to run it on the Dyno . . . he luvs it and reckons its awesome

All being well I should have something from him in a couple of hours to report

. . . I hope Brady is around to post up images if they come to me from Ed's I-Phone . .

With so much speculation I can't wait to see what it is....

And being a no bullshit report, will also be good for everyone on here to see it for what it is, finally!

jkhsv
20-09-2013, 07:05 PM
. . . well I think you will all be pleased . . . 348.7 RWKW or 467.5 RWHP . . .

Thanks Graeme awesome work...

Nitrate
20-09-2013, 07:08 PM
. . . well I think you will all be pleased . . . 348.7 RWKW or 467.5 RWHP . . .

Lol must have been sitting on the page when you posted.

Your thoughts, pretty good hey?

richo7502000
20-09-2013, 07:10 PM
. . . well I think you will all be pleased . . . 348.7 RWKW or 467.5 RWHP . . .

Wow, that is a good set of numbers!!!! Pretty impressed HSV

white_lie
20-09-2013, 07:17 PM
I agree, good set of numbers off the bat. Let's see where that goes with a tune though!

timmy975
20-09-2013, 07:17 PM
Happy Dyno:twisted:






But seriously, excellent result. Can't wait to see them on the street.

SV300
20-09-2013, 07:29 PM
Great numbers..a clear gap to the GTS..

J


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Nitrate
20-09-2013, 07:39 PM
I agree, good set of numbers off the bat. Let's see where that goes with a tune though!

I am guessing another 30 RWHP...

Anyone else?

Sniper
20-09-2013, 07:44 PM
I think it time to clarify some Dyno Data on here to set a few clowns that want to refer to "Happy Dyno's" . . .

. . . I have a post somewhere on here explaining the Dyno facts as I see them and as I have back to backed them

Firstly my W427 produced 311RWKW Stock . . . HSV claimed 375KWKW Stock . . . do he maths and 311 multiplied by 21% equals 375 . . . so there is your factual baseline . . . Eddy also run very close to 311 on his Dyno with a Stock W427 . . .

Both the Adelaide Dyno and the Active Dyno are Dyno Dynamics Duel Retarder models with the latest DD Software . . . So we are comparing apples with apples . . . there are no smoke and mirrors . . . just cold hard reality . . . and any number run on the Active Dyno converts into the correct time down the quarter . . .

So moving on to the Gen-F GTS . . . HSV claim 430 FWKW . . . Eddy ran 348.7RWKW . . . do the maths . . . 348.7 multiplied by 21% equates to 422FWKW . . . looks damn close to reality for me given the thing only had about 40k's on the ODO and is tight!! . . . there is a real chance the Ed's GTS could run a 350 at the treads if it had a couple of hundred k's on it . . . and that would be damn close to 430 . . .

richo7502000
20-09-2013, 07:45 PM
I am guessing another 30 RWHP...

Anyone else?

I would have guessed a bit more than 30 Extra RWKW with A factory S/C motor?? I would suspect HSV would tune it very cautiously off the bat for longevity?

Sniper
20-09-2013, 07:50 PM
Lol . . just got another txt and image . . . 56 mins have passed and he has started to tune it . . . I cannot believe how fast he has made significant gains . . . I will not quote the number as he will be back on the Dyno again tomorrow . . . the Tassone family have an important birthday tonight so that will be it for today

timmy975
20-09-2013, 07:56 PM
set a few clowns that want to refer to "Happy Dyno's" . . .

Looks like I hit a nerve. Take my comment what ever way you want to.

Enjoyed your follow up clarification and figures though.

Nitrate
20-09-2013, 07:59 PM
I would have guessed a bit more than 30 Extra RWKW with A factory S/C motor?? I would suspect HSV would tune it very cautiously off the bat for longevity?

Only guessing richo, I'm related to Jack Schidt so really have no idea :)

Sniper
20-09-2013, 08:01 PM
Looks like I hit a nerve..

You didn't hit a nerve . . Snipers Hideout will always be about facts and good advice from every angle that I can present it . .

The members on here deserve to have my clarification and level of detail to enable good discussion without being clouded with innuendo and rubbish . .

timmy975
20-09-2013, 08:13 PM
You didn't hit a nerve . .
OK.

Not going to get into a pissing contest.

I'll just grab my jacket......As you were....

white_lie
20-09-2013, 08:20 PM
If it's running 9 pound, it will make more than 30rwhp with a tune. NA motors make 30rwhp with a tune!
I'm around the 520rwhp mark on a 5.7L and 9PSI so i'll ball park it at 75-100rwhp gain from a tune on these things, easily over the 600 mark with a decent cam.

gman1270
20-09-2013, 08:38 PM
. . . well I think you will all be pleased . . . 348.7 RWKW or 467.5 RWHP . . .

Nice numbers with only 40k's under the belt, can't wait to see what numbers Ed can produce.

Sniper
20-09-2013, 08:51 PM
I do have a short vid of the Dyno run that I have sent to Brady for posting!! . . .

blown vy gts
20-09-2013, 09:38 PM
I do have a short vid of the Dyno run that I have sent to Brady for posting!! . . .

Hurry up we are waiting lol..

moray066
20-09-2013, 10:58 PM
Great result, I bet he's cracked 400rwkw

Strick
20-09-2013, 11:25 PM
Here's the video, sounds good!

cant embed the video for some reason but the pic will take you to the video

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa318/Brady2806/For%20Sniper/th_IMG_0236.jpg (http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa318/Brady2806/For%20Sniper/IMG_0236.mp4)

johnfhall
21-09-2013, 08:47 AM
So does your tuner use EFI Live or HP Tuners?

Could be a commercial proposition for him to sell the tune file to those who have the hardware to flash it. First cab off the rank so to speak. Just a thought - don't bite my head off, please if this is not a reasonable question! I'm only a newb here.

And another question. Is it a good thing to put a brand new donk on a dyno. I know there is some controversy regarding "run-in" methods? I'm old school I guess...

Nitrate
21-09-2013, 08:56 AM
Waiting with anticipation on RWHP after tune.....

Nitrate
21-09-2013, 09:02 AM
Ed's workshop looks clean as, wish he was in Sydney. Love perfection....

SV36
21-09-2013, 09:02 AM
Their website says they managed nearly 500HP with a tune.

Nitrate
21-09-2013, 09:26 AM
OK here's another guess, with a cold air kit and pulley upgrade I'm thinking another 70-80 RWHP....

Sniper
21-09-2013, 09:47 AM
So does your tuner use EFI Live or HP Tuners?

Could be a commercial proposition for him to sell the tune file to those who have the hardware to flash it. First cab off the rank so to speak. Just a thought - don't bite my head off, please if this is not a reasonable question! I'm only a newb here.

And another question. Is it a good thing to put a brand new donk on a dyno. I know there is some controversy regarding "run-in" methods? I'm old school I guess...

Ed uses VCM software . . .other tuners will be able to get similar results in your State . . . the guys in the West will have he advantage of Ed's intense level of perfection - I have not spoken to him (verbally) since he went home but I can say without fear or favour that the laptop would have been still connected live and he would have been doing further mid range (Torque) adjustments as he drove home and will on his way to Active this morning . . . starting from scratch takes more than a 30 minute dolly up on the rollers

. . . as the day unfolds and if he is satisfied that the base tune is correct we may see further mods take place as he does have a couple of products in stock ready for the next stage of development

The idea of how he has approached the "run in" is always a debateable topic but Ed does what Ed does . . . but you can be sure that he gave the rings a "preload" session enroute from Shacks to Canningvale . . . and a further preload via the Dyno retarder s before he have it the full pull - so to speak

johnfhall
21-09-2013, 09:53 AM
Ed uses VCM software . .

The idea of how he has approached the "run in" is always a debateable topic but Ed does what Ed does . . . but you can be sure that he gave the rings a "preload" session enroute from Shacks to Canningvale . . . and a further preload via the Dyno retarder s before he have it the full pull - so to speak

Thanks for that Sniper. VCM Suite is HP Tuners for those that don't know.

I like the "preload" idea before full pull. I think I knew a girl like that once... Keep on smiling.

jkhsv
21-09-2013, 04:12 PM
Thanks for that Sniper. VCM Suite is HP Tuners for those that don't know.

I like the "preload" idea before full pull. I think I knew a girl like that once... Keep on smiling.

You think John.....memory fading ? lololol

Nitrate
21-09-2013, 06:46 PM
You think John.....memory fading ? lololol

Nothin wrong with livin in the dream...

Sniper
21-09-2013, 07:06 PM
I feel as though Ed is still deep in development and is taking his time to make this thing as nice and as sharp as he can . . .

. . . got a txt from him 10 mins ago that should make ll you Gen-F GTS buyers feel pretty good given the type of power Ed is normally used too!!

Quote - "mate I can't believe how hard this goes in its stock form . . . from stand still it will spin the tyres all the way into 3rd . . . so nice it's hardly something that needs more power . . . on the other half I'm really keen to see how much power it can make with that blower" - end quote

. . . now bare in mind that its already had some tweaking but in the case of appearance and sound it is for all intense purposes a stocker in Ed's words . . .

We have chatted about some nice and very interesting tweaks to come . . . it appears that it will be one hell of a sleeper when finished - stay tuned

Senator01
21-09-2013, 07:09 PM
Hope you guys have a good supply of Conti's

johnfhall
21-09-2013, 07:25 PM
Ah, now I remember.

kristofferjon
21-09-2013, 09:07 PM
It will be very interesting to see the results. I'm picking mine up on Monday or Tuesday, and have a LPE 650 HP kit on its way with larger injectors, supercharger pulley, cold air pod, thermostat, etc.

Planning on keeping it stock beyond that, it should pull 670 hp / 500 kw at the flywheel with the right tuning based on what I have seen from LPE on the Camaro ZL1's :)

Sniper
21-09-2013, 09:37 PM
and have a LPE 650 HP kit on its way with larger injectors, supercharger pulley, cold air pod, thermostat, )

I'll be curious to see if Eddy runs out of Injector "duty cycle" with his first round of mods!!!!

It'll also be interesting what gains can be made on "corn juice" from the bowser too??

white_lie
21-09-2013, 09:44 PM
I'll be curious to see if Eddy runs out of Injector "duty cycle" with his first round of mods!!!!

It'll also be interesting what gains can be made on "corn juice" from the bowser too??

What injectors are in there from factory? 60lbs or something I guess?

E85 will yield very good gains but will need bigger injectors. Probably 50-75rwhp in it quite easily.

Sniper
21-09-2013, 10:22 PM
What injectors are in there from factory? 60lbs or something I guess?

E85 will yield very good gains but will need bigger injectors. Probably 50-75rwhp in it quite easily.

I'm not sure about the injector size but the idea of Lingenfelter supplying injectors with their basic kit suggests that they are covering the option of tuners wanting to do corn juice tunes . . . hence my thoughts

kristofferjon
22-09-2013, 09:29 AM
The LPE injectors are 65/lbs/hr - I'd expect the stockers to be ~55/lbs/hour.

I always used a "rule of thumb" whereby 1/lb/hr supports 11hp in a FI car, so 65's should be good for ~715hp.

white_lie
22-09-2013, 11:51 AM
I'm at the 700 flywheel hp mark with 60lbers and just under 80% duty cycle.
Don't know why they don't give an 80lb set as this is what i'll be going to with E85.

Do they have E85 easily available in the states? I didn't think their premium was even as good as our

Sniper
22-09-2013, 12:15 PM
I was under the impression that Ethanol was big in the States, but maybe someone on here can set me straight!!!

gman1270
22-09-2013, 01:20 PM
I was under the impression that Ethanol was big in the States, but maybe someone on here can set me straight!!!

I was over there in August on a Harley doing the bucket list thing (Route 66), 93 octane is the best they do, Regular is 87, Plus or Special is 89 and Supreme or Super+ is 93, California does us Ethanol but most of the other States dont. If I put anything other than 93 in the HD it pinged like crazy.

scottcmb
22-09-2013, 01:35 PM
I was over there in August on a Harley doing the bucket list thing (Route 66), 93 octane is the best they do, Regular is 87, Plus or Special is 89 and Supreme or Super+ is 93, California does us Ethanol but most of the other States dont. If I put anything other than 93 in the HD it pinged like crazy.

Did you go over with the group from Sydney?

Cheers Scotty :)

gman1270
22-09-2013, 01:55 PM
Did you go over with the group from Sydney?

Cheers Scotty :)

No Scotty, I went with 2 other mates and our brides, 8,800 km's in 24 days which was a trip of a lifetime. Just loved the states, so cheap with our $, but don't get me started on the price of the cars and the selection.

johnfhall
23-09-2013, 12:10 PM
Please see PM re Dyno Graph.

Thanks.

FollowTheSapper
23-09-2013, 12:51 PM
No Scotty, I went with 2 other mates and our brides, 8,800 km's in 24 days which was a trip of a lifetime. Just loved the states, so cheap with our $, but don't get me started on the price of the cars and the selection.

I was in florida for 3 weeks last year and know exactly what you mean! Cheap fuel and cheap cars, Camero's, Mustangs and Corvettes as far as the eye could see!

gman1270
25-09-2013, 08:56 AM
Sniper, any updates on what Ed's up to on the GTS.

Sniper
25-09-2013, 09:04 AM
Sniper, any updates on what Ed's up to on the GTS.

I have more data and a pretty good vid too that shows its rate of acceleration on the road but I think that it's better for me to wait til he has finished stage one - they are pretty busy at Active . . . as you will have seen if you visit the place

I suggest that you drop in for a quick hi and update yourself . . . be sure to keep your visit short sharp n shiny and you will get all the data you need that's available

gman1270
25-09-2013, 09:06 AM
I have more data and a pretty good vid too that shows its rate of acceleration on the road but I think that it's better for me to wait til he has finished stage one - they are pretty busy at Active . . . as you will have seen if you visit the place

I suggest that you drop in for a quick hi and update yourself . . . be sure to keep your visit short sharp n shiny and you will get all the data you need that's available

Done, thanks Sniper

gman1270
25-09-2013, 08:40 PM
Called in today to see Ed, really nice guy, even though he was flat out in the shop he made time for me to go over his new GTS, you can see he loves this car. He said this thing is just awesome stock and I won’t be disappointed. :-)
We went over the results of the very quick tune he did the other day to the motor and auto box, :-) and what his plans are for the next stage upgrade, but it’s all about getting time to get it back in the workshop.
I'm keen to retain the bi-modal mufflers but in the dialed open position they are only open at idle and close as the rev's pick up then open again I think around 2-3 k range, Ed said he believes he can get around that with a dump valve system but will work on it. And that's what I like about Ed.
It was well worth the visit and I’m very glad his in Perth.

jkhsv
25-09-2013, 08:58 PM
Any chance the GTS was going to WAW tonight ?

Sniper
25-09-2013, 09:02 PM
Called in today to see Ed, really nice guy, It was well worth the visit and I’m very glad his in Perth.

Thanks for dropping in mate . . I wish I had the time to head west for a catch up with him but too busy at the moment - he certainly is a different type of guy . . a real thinker and prepared to have a go and do the research to get things right . . .

I've known him for 11 years now and he just seems to get better and better at what he can achieve!!

Sniper
25-09-2013, 09:04 PM
Any chance the GTS was going to WAW tonight ?

Is it that time of the year already . . . I'll see what I can find out!!

white_lie
25-09-2013, 11:31 PM
Was there tonight, had a look around, hoping to see it but didn't.

On another note, a "rival" shop had a VF SS with a Harrop 2300 that went 10.5, also had a Heartbeat on a VE but didn't see how that went... read all about it in PSC I'm sure ;)

Sniper
26-09-2013, 06:06 AM
Was there tonight, had a look around, hoping to see it but didn't.

On another note, a "rival" shop had a VF SS with a Harrop 2300 that went 10.5)

. . that is tidy . . . I doubt the GTS will get that deep into the 10's with the small 1900 puffer but we will have too wait 'n see . . .

jkhsv
26-09-2013, 07:50 AM
Was there tonight, had a look around, hoping to see it but didn't.

On another note, a "rival" shop had a VF SS with a Harrop 2300 that went 10.5, also had a Heartbeat on a VE but didn't see how that went... read all about it in PSC I'm sure ;)

That is moving....

white_lie
26-09-2013, 09:29 AM
He's confident of a flat 10, high 9 with a diff ratio change and sorting some belt slip out that was happening down the end of the track. Still runs the 6 speed auto though, so impressive all the same

Sniper
27-09-2013, 09:36 AM
. . . Just had a further update from Ed . . . plenty of R&D happening but taking time as certain components are not "bolt on" with the GTS's unique engine bay configuration . . . more news tomorrow with a bit of luck

jkhsv
27-09-2013, 09:46 AM
Graeme is there any chance of posting the stock dyno run from Eds Gen F GTS please ?

Sniper
27-09-2013, 09:51 AM
Graeme is there any chance of posting the stock dyno run from Eds Gen F GTS please ?

All I got was an I-phone pic the other day that I sent to Brady for posting . . . I'll post all that stuff sometime soon when he can be bothered to print it off etc . . .

you know what he is like . . . yesterday's news is just that - yesterday's news . . :) . . . I'll sort him out tho . . .

white_lie
27-09-2013, 09:55 AM
Send it thru to me if it hasn't been posted already Graeme, i'll put it up if Brady has other stuff on his plate.

How much room is there at the front for an OTR or similar with all the other coolers shoehorned in there? Not sure how well they will look with the bend off the TB anyway

johnfhall
27-09-2013, 10:08 AM
Graeme is there any chance of posting the stock dyno run from Eds Gen F GTS please ?

+1 from me as well...

Sniper
27-09-2013, 10:30 AM
Send it thru to me if it hasn't been posted already Graeme, i'll put it up if Brady has other stuff on his plate.

How much room is there at the front for an OTR or similar with all the other coolers shoehorned in there? Not sure how well they will look with the bend off the TB anyway

I wish I was there and could access all the pics and info you want . . . but we will need to be patient - I know where he is at but it is not ready for any more info yet . . .

I have never ever seen him as fussy about a project like he is with this - as you are well aware the norm in WA is "loud n proud" but he is being more reserved with this one and keeping it nice

. . . maybe I am finally getting to him . . Lol . . .

Strick
27-09-2013, 08:51 PM
all the pics are up that Graeme has sent me including the video, great car. very jealous of owners of finally a proper GTS

RedHotMike
28-09-2013, 08:54 AM
all the pics are up that Graeme has sent me including the video, great car. very jealous of owners of finally a proper GTS

where?

white_lie
28-09-2013, 10:27 AM
Post #4, 6 and 48.
There's no photo of the dyno graph, haven't seen one anywhere and I don't think Ed would have taken one...You can get a quick dodgy glimpse of it in the video

johnfhall
28-09-2013, 10:37 AM
Post #4, 6 and 48.
There's no photo of the dyno graph, ... and I don't think Ed would have taken one...

Just Great...:mad:

Sniper
28-09-2013, 11:42 AM
I do have another in car vid that I'll send to Brady

kristofferjon
29-09-2013, 08:22 AM
Can you post a link to the Dyno graph guys?

jkhsv
29-09-2013, 09:07 AM
Can you post a link to the Dyno graph guys?

Read post #92

Sniper
29-09-2013, 10:34 AM
Read post #92

I think the guys are wanting to see the whole graph John but Ed was still in the development phase when he took those pics so I gather that's why the whole graph is not in the image

I just realise another Vid I sends Brady didn't go about 4 days ago . . . I'll try to send it again . . . It's just an I-Phone thing and doesn't prove much - but I'm sure you'll have a look anyway

Strick
29-09-2013, 04:30 PM
i didnt get it mate, only have the one on the dyno which i have put up

Sniper
29-09-2013, 05:40 PM
i didnt get it mate, only have the one on the dyno which i have put up

Just found it again and sent from my laptop . . . instead of I-Pad . . . should be with you now!!!

Strick
29-09-2013, 06:13 PM
Here it is:

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa318/Brady2806/For%20Sniper/th_IMG_0265.jpg (http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa318/Brady2806/For%20Sniper/IMG_0265.mp4)

Brett240
29-09-2013, 09:30 PM
Woooah. That acceleration is ridiculous!!

white_lie
29-09-2013, 10:49 PM
Welcome to the world of boost!

gman1270
29-09-2013, 11:23 PM
Now THAT's what I'm looking forward to.

Styles
30-09-2013, 01:52 PM
Guys can you ask him if he has timed it 0-100 ? I have a thread in general dying to get a proper 0-100 time from the auto gts stock... From someone who can actually drive ;)

white_lie
30-09-2013, 02:20 PM
Problem is it was only stock for ~40kms. Pretty much from the dealer to the workshop, straight onto the dyno for a base figure and a touch up of the tune.

In a matter of hours, it was making over 15% more power than what they're quoted at producing.

Styles
30-09-2013, 02:28 PM
Hmmm yea maybe that vid was made pre mods ? They might have a ruff time would be good so they can see how much they improve it I guess rather than just dyno reads.

johnfhall
30-09-2013, 03:02 PM
I, for one, am extremely disappointed that no "before" dyno graph or, as some want, 0-100 times, were done by Ed (or anyone) so far. It's absolutely his right not to supply, publish or hand out such info., but if that is to be, then it would have been better if this thread had not been started. Expectation has built up, with no real result, other than a bit of a video of the dyno time, and a view of the dash while under acceleration… with these I am totally underwhelmed. For those of us who will probably never see a dyno, or tune their GTS, we would still like to see a well set out result of the stock dyno test. I imagine when Ed does a tune for a customer he provides these things, and while I understand the lust to dabble and modify for maximum power, surely the baseline, untouched, would have been nice to see, if only for posterity.
I am not criticising Ed or Sniper, or the others involved here. I am just expressing a view that expectations have not been met, and frustration caused. Should results be produced, then I will be the first to congratulate, but if not then I guess we have to wait for some other brave soul to stick his brand newie on some other dyno. Well, it won't be me…

Sniper
30-09-2013, 04:34 PM
I, for one, am extremely disappointed that no "before" dyno graph or, as some want, 0-100 times, were done by Ed (or anyone) so far. It's absolutely his right not to supply, publish or hand out such info., but if that is to be, then it would have been better if this thread had not been started. Expectation has built up, with no real result, other than a bit of a video of the dyno time, and a view of the dash while under acceleration… with these I am totally underwhelmed. For those of us who will probably never see a dyno, or tune their GTS, we would still like to see a well set out result of the stock dyno test. I imagine when Ed does a tune for a customer he provides these things, and while I understand the lust to dabble and modify for maximum power, surely the baseline, untouched, would have been nice to see, if only for posterity.
I am not criticising Ed or Sniper, or the others involved here. I am just expressing a view that expectations have not been met, and frustration caused. Should results be produced, then I will be the first to congratulate, but if not then I guess we have to wait for some other brave soul to stick his brand newie on some other dyno. Well, it won't be me…

That's why the thread is in the "hideout" and not in general discussion . . .

Ed is his own man and he can do whatever he wants and I will post whatever I feel like and so be it . . . things happen differently in the West . . . quick is never quick enough . . . and quick enough cant be done quick enough . . . Lol. . . if you can interpret that

I suggest you start your own thread when you get your car or get someone else to start a new thread with the data you want but the before Dyno number is on here - just not the full graph

Snipers Hideout will always push the boundaries of both car performance and political HSV & Automotive discussion . . . and no prisoners will be taken and no stone left unturned to achieve the goals needed with car projects . . . if that doesn't fit your thoughts I guess thats just too bad . . . there are plenty of ther sections with great reading and info to digest for those that don't want to push "life's" envelope

As a general rule of thumb, Ed sends me data when he feels that I would be interested . . . I know the Pre Dyno number & so do you . . . but to ask him to go down to the "plex" and drag out the timimg equipment for a pre 0 - 100 time is a little selfish! . . . that's not his cup of tea . . . someone else can do that

. . . But to be dissapointed and critical of him, given what data and info he has both provided and developed for the Performance Industry in Australia is a little harsh in my opinion . . .

Having said that, if you (or anyone else) thinks it's best that this thread be deleted . . . I can do that in a heartbeat . . .

hsv.286
30-09-2013, 04:46 PM
Other tuners have run up brand new stock gts' s and have similar results to ed at active's so I don't see any problems with this thread. .just because it hasn't appeared on this forum, doesn't mean it hasn't happened..cheers. .:)

Styles
30-09-2013, 05:48 PM
Sniper I'm not picking on anyone :) just to clear up my part, just asking if you got told his ruff 0-100 time ? If not that's cool preformance drive website will be doing it soon.

richo7502000
30-09-2013, 06:29 PM
Finally a day off where I can watch that 0-200..... far out that's effortless!!!!! Anyone wanna take me for a spin (as passenger) in their new GTS in Melbourne??? Pretty please!!

Andrew_02
02-10-2013, 07:46 PM
Living in Perth has many advantages, as does being a customer of Eddie and being interested in another annual HSV update.
with no GTS to look apart from sold with locked doors around I was lucky enough to sit in one of the quickest at this early stage...so 1 x VF GTS, red, owned and tuned by Eddie, how much pick up does it have %$#@ the front lifts up, no wheel spin
and the standard exhaust howls, so much more noise than the 324 bimodal with an intake.
How to put this cars pickup into words, bloody fast with no wheel spin with the computer system on,,,
my 12 model with a tune by Eddie has about 365FWKW, Eddies GTS has about 450/460plus.
The KWS don't explain how fast this car is, HSV have put together a monster everything about the GTS is spot on.
Yes the front end does not do the car justice. Not so sure I can take looking at the new grange too seriously now
the GTS is by far to top of the range car now and I doubt it will ever be upstaged.
I should add that I was not driving thank god, however for the right price I would like to buy one after
today. If your driving a VF GTS you are bloody lucky and good on you, if I could afford $104-$97 I would
order one now. Cheers Andrew with a bloody big smile after just going for a lap in one. Thanks Eddie.

jkhsv
03-10-2013, 11:49 AM
So where did Eddie get with the tuning Graeme ?

Aussie Revhead
04-10-2013, 01:15 AM
Today we where first to receive deliverer of VF GTS.
Back to back runs it made 464 and 467 rwhp,in its stock form.

A quick tweak saw nearly 500 rwhp with just a tune.
this is from there facebook page :)

Watch this space as we carry out some power up grades for your needs. https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/555421_10151872767778493_324992669_n.jpg

cdaveyb
04-10-2013, 07:09 AM
Very nice!

Sniper
04-10-2013, 09:02 AM
FYI - the post #114 above was copied off the Active FB page and was not posted by Ed . . .

Brett240
04-10-2013, 12:22 PM
FYI - the post #114 above was copied off the Active FB page and was not posted by Ed . . .

now following!

Sniper
04-10-2013, 06:54 PM
Plenty of R&D this week with he GTS and plenty more to come . . . Tuners will need to be "at the top of heir game" to nail the LSA and many of its idiosyncrasies . . . and there are plenty!!!

I'll report in again soon but I feel Ed has really got his head around the LSA thus far . . but as time goes on and more thinking evolves a raft of new tricks are "on the table" to extract the best from his GTS while still keeping it nice

Sniper
05-10-2013, 01:09 PM
. . . more tuning and a change of fuel "brand" today has netted more gains

Ed in now deep into the 500FWKW zone and the torque is unbelievable for a small blower . . .

He is off to another workshop this arvo to help a mate and will back to back his numbers on a Mainline Dyno there . .

We won't quote numbers or finite results til he is finished but there is no doubt that it could be a 10 sec car soon . .
It blows the tyres off changing between 3rd and 4th which for a 1900kg stocker is amazing . . . even he is struggling to believe the potential of the LSA with a few tweaks

richo7502000
05-10-2013, 01:12 PM
. . . more tuning and a change of fuel "brand" today has netted more gains

Ed in now deep into the 500FWKW zone and the torque is unbelievable for a small blower . . .

He is off to another workshop this arvo to help a mate and will back to back his numbers on a Mainline Dyno there . .

We won't quote numbers or finite results til he is finished but there is no doubt that it could be a 10 sec car soon . .
It blows the tyres off changing between 3rd and 4th which for a 1900kg stocker is amazing . . . even he is struggling to believe the potential of the LSA with a few tweaks

Is that with Mods or tune only Still Graeme????

Sniper
05-10-2013, 01:18 PM
Is that with Mods or tune only Still Graeme????

Tune and a new pulley at this stage

The "tune only" gains are significant but the LSA is very fuel sensitive when the limit is being pushed . . . .

. . .it will be getting a new set of rear tyres this week too . . . R&D is not cheap .. . Lol

Sniper
05-10-2013, 03:34 PM
Using the exact mathematical principles that calculates the stock 348RWKW as 430KW at the Flywheel . . . he now has 521KW at the Flywheel . . . but the torque is the big question . . .

More tuning continues over the next day or so that will yield more KW's but more importantly (in my opinion) more torque . . it's safe to say that the 740nm that HSV quote is long gone and so has 900 with 1000nm on the horizon

. . . all that with a Pulley change, Headers but retaining the stock bimodal rear mufflers, Air box Mod using the stock bimodal intake box and filter, Premium pump fuel, and plenty of time sussing out the many different parameters in the ECU that are not normally used in the LS3 . . . .

. . . and it still drives nice and stock . . . .

07GTS
05-10-2013, 04:06 PM
got to love bucket loads of torque... much leeway in the factory fuel system or are they getting choose to updating the injectors etc..?

Sniper
05-10-2013, 04:52 PM
got to love bucket loads of torque... much leeway in the factory fuel system or are they getting choose to updating the injectors etc..?

. . . on the limit now so we will need to watch the duty cycle closely from here on . . .

kristofferjon
05-10-2013, 05:04 PM
What type of headers have you fitted? Have you retained factory cats or gone to aftermarket cats?

Still with the standard 2.25-2.5" exhaust piping?

Sniper
05-10-2013, 05:14 PM
What type of headers have you fitted? Have you retained factory cats or gone to aftermarket cats?

Still with the standard 2.25-2.5" exhaust piping?

Pacemaker 1 7/8". . . . . a mounting change for the oil cooler was also necessary . . .

We will elaborate more about this mod once the R & D is completed as Ed may use a different exhaust combo - mid section & rears are still OE as stated earlier

senator85
05-10-2013, 05:26 PM
That is f$@kin awesome! I think I'm ganna have to get me one of these...

white_lie
05-10-2013, 05:31 PM
May as well go with ID1000's or similar and throw some E85 in to it. Will be just shy of 600 unopened and be close to that 10 second car you're talking about!

Sniper
05-10-2013, 05:45 PM
May as well go with ID1000's or similar and throw some E85 in to it. Will be just shy of 600 unopened and be close to that 10 second car you're talking about!

He's taking his time to do this in stages . . . he'll get there in the end but I tend to think the massive torque figure will have a significant effect on the 10 that I feel it has in it . . .

. . . it's certainly been an interesting week or so . . . there is a lot of info that we are keeping to ourselves for obvious reasons but all is on track at this stage to exceed the parameters that I had set for my own project

white_lie
05-10-2013, 06:38 PM
Good to hear, blowers are wonderful things for high performance whilst retaining factory drivability

myBerlina
05-10-2013, 11:51 PM
Pacemaker 1 7/8". . . . . a mounting change for the oil cooler was also necessary . . .


Do Pacemaker have specific extractors for the GTS yet ?
I remember reading that the LSA was mounted at an angle to achieve the required bonnet clearance. I would expect that to have an impact on the shape of the extractors.

Dave!

kristofferjon
06-10-2013, 06:03 AM
Definitely a good question considering the ho-ha that HSV made about the difficulties mounting the LSA in the chassis without fouling various components.

Sniper
06-10-2013, 07:19 AM
Do Pacemaker have specific extractors for the GTS yet ?!

No they don't . . . Hense my comment about the oil cooler mount - which uses a specifically engineered part that Active have acquired to complete the successful fitment in house . . .

Mike from Pacemaker is preparing to tool a specific set of Headers for the GTS in the coming weeks . . .

kristofferjon
06-10-2013, 07:37 AM
Please put me on the list for some of these :) HPC coated as well?

Sniper
08-10-2013, 07:19 PM
I'm in Melb at the mo and just about to depart to Hobart but Ed has sent me a very interesting Dyno graph . . . which I will dissect and do the converted numbers (to flywheel) later tonight and send a copy to Brady of the I-Phone image too . .

It's worth a look and the big news is Ed has run out of Injector "Duty Cycle" so it's certainly pulling hard now

jkhsv
08-10-2013, 07:25 PM
Look forward to seeing that...thanks Graeme :cool:

Sniper
08-10-2013, 10:57 PM
I've sent the graph to Brady and I am sure he will upload it at his earliest convenience

The graph must be put into context from 2 points of view . . . firstly I am leaning Eddy for torque as much as peak KW . . . and secondly the "stock" power initially kept rising all the way past 6200RPM & now that the tune has increased, the power & torque is at the point where its run out of injector duty cycle at 5700RPM . . . which will be corrected tomorrow if he has them in stock

OK . . . Now for the numbers . . . It started with 467RWHP and now has 551 . . . it has had more peak power than this recently but timing changes for max torque has given us less peak KW and no more injector so expect that to come back soon

467 RWHP equated to 348RWKW which is the 430 that HSV & GM claim at the Flywheel on their engine Dyno's - using the increase from 348 to the now 411RWKW and applying the 22% gives Eddy 502FWKW with more to come with injectors , more tuning to suit the injectors plus a dedicated OTR

Now for the torque - it started with 550 ftlb (Dyno dynamics reading) and went to 695 . . . . once again the 550 is 740 in HSV/GM speak and the correct maths to calculate that is 35% . . . so we take the new torque figure of 695 and apply the 35% and whamo - 938nm . . . .

So there's your numbers thus far guys with more to come with the injectors etc - I'm sure some will debate my maths and some will agree - but in the end this is the most honest and accurate way I can explained the increases in output that Ed has achieved . . . all through the stock HSV bimodal rear mufflers

430KW is now 502KW
740NM is now 938NM

I hope that all makes some sense!!!! . . and . . . I wonder what we will be reporting next . . .

Strick
09-10-2013, 12:10 AM
Not bad, heres the graph!

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa318/Brady2806/For%20Graeme/photo6.jpg (http://s199.photobucket.com/user/Brady2806/media/For%20Graeme/photo6.jpg.html)

dgp
09-10-2013, 07:03 AM
The pic of the graph his not visible Brady

white_lie
09-10-2013, 08:27 AM
Just a question but why do you apply a 22% drivetrain loss for power and a 35% loss for torque? Should it not be the same?

RedHotMike
09-10-2013, 08:31 AM
I've sent the graph to Brady and I am sure he will upload it at his earliest convenience

The graph must be put into context from 2 points of view . . . firstly I am leaning Eddy for torque as much as peak KW . . . and secondly the "stock" power initially kept rising all the way past 6200RPM & now that the tune has increased, the power & torque is at the point where its run out of injector duty cycle at 5700RPM . . . which will be corrected tomorrow if he has them in stock

OK . . . Now for the numbers . . . It started with 467RWHP and now has 551 . . . it has had more peak power than this recently but timing changes for max torque has given us less peak KW and no more injector so expect that to come back soon

467 RWHP equated to 348RWKW which is the 430 that HSV & GM claim at the Flywheel on their engine Dyno's - using the increase from 348 to the now 411RWKW and applying the 22% gives Eddy 502FWKW with more to come with injectors , more tuning to suit the injectors plus a dedicated OTR

Now for the torque - it started with 550 ftlb (Dyno dynamics reading) and went to 695 . . . . once again the 550 is 740 in HSV/GM speak and the correct maths to calculate that is 35% . . . so we take the new torque figure of 695 and apply the 35% and whamo - 938nm . . . .

So there's your numbers thus far guys with more to come with the injectors etc - I'm sure some will debate my maths and some will agree - but in the end this is the most honest and accurate way I can explained the increases in output that Ed has achieved . . . all through the stock HSV bimodal rear mufflers

430KW is now 502KW
740NM is now 938NM

I hope that all makes some sense!!!! . . and . . . I wonder what we will be reporting next . . .

All of this is from tune and a pully? Or are there other mods as well?

kristofferjon
09-10-2013, 08:43 AM
What boost level was that power made at?

Sniper
09-10-2013, 09:16 AM
All of this is from tune and a pully? Or are there other mods as well?

. . . Plus a set of Pacemakers which I am sure that I have mentioned in an earlier post . . .

It's taken plenty of time on the laptop to get to this point as the ECU has features that are not used in the LS3 application . . . but are embedded in the LSA application and need to be cracked and interpreted

kristofferjon
09-10-2013, 09:41 AM
The power and torque numbers are great. Injectors definitely required.

I have a LPE 650 HP kit being delivered for my own GTS today. Kit includes:
- Lingenfelter High Flow Camaro ZL1 Cold Air Intake LSA 2012-2013
- Overdrive Harmonic Balancer Kit 2009-2012
- 5% Overdrive Balancer Pulley 2009-2012
- LSA 10 bolt Supercharger Pulley Hub
- LSA 2.55 8 Rib 10 Bolt Pulley
- Lingenfelter Supercharger Isolator Coupling
- K080660 8 Rib Poly V Belt For 5% Overdrive Pulley & 2.55 Upper Pulley 67.0 inches
- Lingenfelter 160 Degree Thermostat
- Bosch LS9 LSA 63 lb Fuel Injectors

Then I'm going to add the headers, custom tune, etc. Expecting 500kw+ (670hp) @ flywheel.

Beyond that are mods that I'm not too keen on including cam, heads, full twin 3" exhaust. Based on what LPE are seeing in the states these are worth another 70-100hp on top.

RedHotMike
09-10-2013, 02:11 PM
. . . Plus a set of Pacemakers which I am sure that I have mentioned in an earlier post . . .

It's taken plenty of time on the laptop to get to this point as the ECU has features that are not used in the LS3 application . . . but are embedded in the LSA application and need to be cracked and interpreted

Ahhh yes. I'm sure you did mention that now you mention it. Anyway - looking forward to the results with bigger squirters

Strick
09-10-2013, 02:58 PM
pic working again

jkhsv
09-10-2013, 03:12 PM
2,700 rpm and them BOOM...good bye sister :grin:

Sniper
09-10-2013, 03:46 PM
2,700 rpm and them BOOM...good bye sister :grin:

Brady - thanks for sorting it mate

JK . . . imagine driving the thing with that much torque and a quiet exhaust - yum . . . I'm not due to visit til December so fark knows how quick it will be by then

jkhsv
09-10-2013, 03:54 PM
Graeme if the prices of the GTS keep coming down like you suggest..FARK the W427...

No not really I want a limited edition car in the grudge, unfortunately as yummy as the GTS sounds it will just lose too much money :p

Drasius
09-10-2013, 07:02 PM
It still boggles my mind that a bog standard GTS has about the same power @ 3000 rpm that a bog standard SS does at peak.

The tuned version is equaling a new senator/R8 SV peak power at only 3700 RPM where the std one manages it at 4700.

Mental.

white_lie
09-10-2013, 07:22 PM
Its the instantaneous nature of the top mount blower. Pretty much peak boost from idle.

I have around 400rwhp at 3,000RPM in a little 5.7L with 9 pound so the bigger motors with better heads and more boost should have another 30-50hp on me!

Sniper
10-10-2013, 04:05 PM
It's back on the Dyno with new injectors - more numbers soon . . . tonight

Ed has reminded me this is still being tuned with Maf

Sniper
10-10-2013, 05:51 PM
. . . a couple of Dyno graphs ave arrived over the past 2 hours . . . as a summary the torque is up marginally and both graphs have the same torque number - give or take a couple of NM

However the KW increases are continuing nicely

At the moment the updated numbers are as follows

Stock KW 430 now 527 . . . up 23% from factory
Stock NM 740 now 964 . . . up 31% from factory

GTS owners in Perth are certainly in for a treat . . . 1000NM is savage . . . but I'm not sure he can quite get there with the current HSV rear mufflers . . .

If I was in Perth today I could/would be tempted to cut one of the bimodals open and see how they can be improved in flow!!! . . I certainly have my thoughts in achieving a better result from the secondary outlet !!! . . . .

I haven't spoken to Ed today . . . I am getting email & txt updates so I guess the R&D continues . . . if I get anything further to report , I'll then send Brady the graph for posting. . .

Andrew_02
10-10-2013, 06:38 PM
Thanks for the update what's just as impressive is how the car handles all that power well done to HSV. Cheers andrew

gman1270
10-10-2013, 08:26 PM
. . . a couple of Dyno graphs ave arrived over the past 2 hours . . . as a summary the torque is up marginally and both graphs have the same torque number - give or take a couple of NM

However the KW increases are continuing nicely

At the moment the updated numbers are as follows

Stock KW 430 now 527 . . . up 23% from factory
Stock NM 740 now 964 . . . up 31% from factory

GTS owners in Perth are certainly in for a treat . . . 1000NM is savage . . . but I'm not sure he can quite get there with the current HSV rear mufflers . . .

If I was in Perth today I could/would be tempted to cut one of the bimodals open and see how they can be improved in flow!!! . . I certainly have my thoughts in achieving a better result from the secondary outlet !!! . . . .

I haven't spoken to Ed today . . . I am getting email & txt updates so I guess the R&D continues . . . if I get anything further to report , I'll then send Brady the graph for posting. . .

That is looking awesome.

Dam it I was working around the corner today and knew I should have dropped in for a quick chat, will do mid next week. :-)

R34
10-10-2013, 10:30 PM
That is a great result!!
Just a question is will the gearbox handle 1000Nm?

Good to hear that the tune has been done with the MAF.
I'd avoided having my car tuned as last discussion with Actives they only did Mafless tunes so I will have to talk to them again to see if they will now give me a MAF tune

Strick
13-10-2013, 07:34 PM
Some numbers that i heard on the great vine about the GTS, fantastic result thats for sure;


Ed took the GTS to the Plex in "street trim" . . . Inc shagged Continental tyres and run 11.042 @ 200.33kph

jkhsv
13-10-2013, 07:48 PM
Some numbers that i heard on the great vine about the GTS, fantastic result thats for sure;


Ed took the GTS to the Plex in "street trim" . . . Inc shagged Continental tyres and run 11.042 @ 200.33kph

What mods to get this time please ..?

moray066
13-10-2013, 08:14 PM
What mods to get this time please ..?

You'd have to assume the mods are what has been discussed, which I believe is pulley upgrade, pacemaker headers and tune.


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Strick
13-10-2013, 09:19 PM
Yep, i believe thats the go. However theres one bloke that can confirm but i dont think he'll be spending much time around here any more which is a pitty no matter what your views were.

moray066
13-10-2013, 09:34 PM
Yep, i believe thats the go. However theres one bloke that can confirm but i dont think he'll be spending much time around here any more which is a pitty no matter what your views were.

That's fu$?ed! So many great threads with fantastic information and a wealth of knowledge in a brand we all love. But it's typical, I guess that's what happens when you tell it how it is.


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R34
14-10-2013, 10:04 AM
Yep, i believe thats the go. However theres one bloke that can confirm but i dont think he'll be spending much time around here any more which is a pitty no matter what your views were.
Yeah I've noticed that forum wide and it's not right ....all because of one deluded individual

Nitrate
14-10-2013, 01:45 PM
I do hope Graeme returns to the forum, I don't think it will be the same without him. Although we had some disagreements I did value his opinions and do hold a lot of respect for him. I will say this again, there are very few that hold as much passion for the brand then him.

I did talk with him on the phone a couple of times and he definitely came across as an absolute gentleman as well!

I believe supporters and opponents alike probably helped with what transpired last week. I do however tend to think there is a deeper problem to what is going on with Graeme with some of the negativity, not all though. IMO he is probably not getting the deserved attention from HSV that he maybe once got. I find it surprising that if HSV were monitoring the forum, over the past few weeks, that they didn't take the opportunity to jump on the phone and have a chat, or vice versa for that matter. I feel deep down he is a true patriot to HSV.

Anyway lets hope he doesn't avoid the forum permanently, it would be a great loss to us all!

jkhsv
14-10-2013, 01:57 PM
Knowing Eddy I am sure he will have that GTS in the 10's soon...... :D

Strick
16-10-2013, 07:06 PM
Another update:

here is the latest graph and numbers

430kw is now 540kw - up 25%
740nm is now 1046nm - up 41%

and it's holding it's power all the way past 6500rpm

Pritty much at the end of the current stage of development, im sure Sniper has more info however due to a few on the forum we are left wondering to some of the more finer details.

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa318/Brady2806/For%20Graeme/photo3.jpg (http://s199.photobucket.com/user/Brady2806/media/For%20Graeme/photo3.jpg.html)

cheers

dgp
16-10-2013, 08:04 PM
Come on Sniper, don't let the minority wreck it for the majority mate. Most of us on here really want to hear your insights and share in your knowledge of the brand.

jkhsv
16-10-2013, 09:35 PM
I guess some people don't like hearing the truth......

moray066
16-10-2013, 09:35 PM
Come on Sniper, don't let the minority wreck it for the majority mate. Most of us on here really want to hear your insights and share in your knowledge of the brand.

Was thinking the same thing, was considering starting a thread in support of bringing him back, in case he may grace the threads silently from time to time. I know there would be a barrage of support for him. I don't know the guy but always enjoyed reading his posts.


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jkhsv
16-10-2013, 10:38 PM
Knowing Eddy I am sure he will have that GTS in the 10's soon...... :D

Sooner than I thought lol

R34
16-10-2013, 11:49 PM
Come on Sniper, don't let the minority wreck it for the majority mate. Most of us on here really want to hear your insights and share in your knowledge of the brand.
Well I don't blame him at all.
Got to the stage he couldn't post anything without some idiot quoting him then crapping on about nothing.
Forum is much the worse for it now and boring.

Styles
17-10-2013, 12:03 AM
The forums going very well in general boys... It's very positive.

Cheer up. He will be back and this time a lot more positive for the good of all.

Even I said to him to stick to this stuff like this thread forget the conspiracies and the hsv/dealer hate.

He just got a little bitter and let his ego get a tad out of control. But I agree totally he should come back and focus on all the positive stuff he has done. And remember how much he loves the brand and the cars.


So come back sniper - please don't throw your toys and go home - even from me it's a huge waste.

P.s sniper is a big boy he made his own decisions to post negative stuff that was upsetting a lot of people not just 1 so please be rational he upset a lot more than you will know. He got off track we all do no hard feelings just come back to remember the good stuff is still good people here love you and miss you please consider thinking of them and getting back on the horse...the conspiracy stuff meant so little to you really.

R34
17-10-2013, 12:16 AM
And who are you to tell anyone what to do, think and which thread to do it in.
You are poison for this forum

jakupa
17-10-2013, 12:23 AM
What are the mods at this stage to get the results, I live in QLD so when will Eddie be on the gold coast I can organise a DYNO..

Styles
17-10-2013, 12:32 AM
And who are you to tell anyone what to do, think and which thread to do it in.
You are poison for this forum

R34 please calm down. Ditch the anger its not needed.

attacking me is pointless.

You miss him a lot and it's upsetting you. I get it but anger won't bring him back :/


I'm sure he will return I seriously doubt he is gone forever.


Please take it easy. There's lots of good threads positive threads. Ill bet ya $20 he will be back soon :)


Peace

R34
17-10-2013, 12:42 AM
Not angry mate just think you are the worst thing that ever happened to this forum
You're all lovey dovey now but I remember how feral you are
Hope HSV paid you well

Styles
17-10-2013, 07:57 AM
That's because I'm not being attacked or seeing hsv /dealers being attacked (they are good people doing good jobs I have had great service) there is good positive stuff being posted ...

For the record I don't work for hsv nor get paid.

I am a customer and a fan. I am happy with there service and respect there right to run the business as they see fit.

Also very proud of Aussie engineering we have a world class preformance car range to be proud of let's support it. A good place to support it would be this forum a hsv fan forum.

P.s to assume hsv pay people to say good things is yet again a slurr on there reputation... Please think about weather if you owned a legit business you would feel good about people accusing you of immoral practices ??? There a business but there also Human beings that do not deserve the attacks on there dignity. Food for thought.

RCBVFGTS
17-10-2013, 08:17 AM
Styles

Until late last night I didn't realise who Graeme (Sniper) really is.

Just an FYI. Myself and I'm sure many other people on this forum owe this man a massive amount of gratitude for Holden V's Ford shows he and Sue use to run in every state in Australia, as too then the AME Show. I've had the privilege of knowing Graeme now since 2003, which may not be as long as some people on this forum but might be more too however one thing I can say is you will not meet a more honest, sincere, hardworking and dedicated man.

I use to watch and listen to the crap he use to cop at these car shows and yet he did it all with a smile on his face. Never a bad word, never any nastiness and always the voice of reason.

Graeme and Sue, and their kids for the mater always treated me with a massive amount of respect and I too had nothing short of this for them. You just couldn't have found lovelier people if you tried. End of story!

I don't think Graeme could be dishonest if he tried! That's one of the things those that know Graeme love most about them man

Styles, do yourself a massive favour and simply don't even mention Graeme's name, whether it be good, bad or indifferent. Just leave it well alone! All you're doing is rubbing salt into the wound whether intentional or not so just bow out and leave it.

Styles
17-10-2013, 08:38 AM
Well that's great he sounds like a really good man. That said I think the smile on his face turned to anger, but I'm sure from what you have said it will pass as he sounds like a guy that will be the bigger man and let it go. It's only ego that prevents us from moving on courage allows us to drop stuff for a more positive focus.

I hope he keeps up the good stuff he has clearly done a lot of and focuses on that.

I give him props not salt... For the good things. And look forward to putting the negative stuff behind.

That is all. Good luck guys I'll leave you to it.

jkhsv
17-10-2013, 08:46 AM
Styles if you want to keep on dumping your shit on this forum because that is all that you have done since joining, then start a whinge thread up and crap on about it in there. Let's see how many followers you get.

This thread is about Active's Gen F GTS so let's get it back on topic because that is what WE are interested in.

Styles
17-10-2013, 08:57 AM
True I'm sorry for contributing to derailing thread. Sorry.

Yes back on topic.

I would has a guess they will get 580 kw from what I've seen so far and read from local tuners. Let's see.

jkhsv
17-10-2013, 09:04 AM
Eddy ran the GTS at the Plex last night for a 10.95 @ 125mph..now that is moving for bolt ons, tune and street rubber...600rwhp

I look forward to see what this package will cost because that is great news for GTS owners :cool:

Styles
17-10-2013, 09:14 AM
That's quick dam.

Might be a stupid question but is there a legal limit to how much power a street car can have to be registered ? I hope not ;) but got my thinking.

bosscocky
17-10-2013, 09:21 AM
And who are you to tell anyone what to do, think and which thread to do it in.
You are poison for this forum

Totally agree 100%. We have seen this bloke raving and ranting when he doesn't like what he hears and now he is so self righteous its sickening.

zigaus001
17-10-2013, 09:39 AM
I agree also Sniper is so passionate for this brand, people like that don't come along every day he is a must in HSV/forums, it will not be even close to the same if it doesn't return.To have people of his knowledge and contacts and willingness to SHARE this is very rare just look at the support he has given to HSV over the years with all the cars he has been fortunate enough to purchase.
I just hope Graeme can get over these few narrow minded self indulgent individual's, Because I for one will be spending a lot less time on here.


Was thinking the same thing, was considering starting a thread in support of bringing him back, in case he may grace the threads silently from time to time. I know there would be a barrage of support for him. I don't know the guy but always enjoyed reading his posts.


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Styles
17-10-2013, 09:44 AM
Guys off topic. Please let it be.

I will only take so much like anyone so please back on topic...

Guess what they will get I got 580kw.

Anyone know the legal kw or hp limit ? If there is one ?

white_lie
17-10-2013, 11:32 AM
There is no legal limit on power output.
It's more so the emissions, noise etc that will spoil the party but as the modification list stands ATM, it would appear near on 100% factory to the unassuming eye.

There will be a heap more left in this vehicle with another round of mods but for the time being, the outlay on "Stage 1" is somewhat minimal for the results!

jkhsv
17-10-2013, 11:41 AM
Not sure of the time as the video is on the green monaro but Eddy's GTS is in the run....

Great reaction time there....


http://youtu.be/sPZtXLflmp8

RedHotMike
17-10-2013, 02:20 PM
That's because I'm not being attacked or seeing hsv /dealers being attacked (they are good people doing good jobs I have had great service) there is good positive stuff being posted ...

For the record I don't work for hsv nor get paid.

I am a customer and a fan. I am happy with there service and respect there right to run the business as they see fit.

Also very proud of Aussie engineering we have a world class preformance car range to be proud of let's support it. A good place to support it would be this forum a hsv fan forum.

I think near every person on this forum would fit that description however that doesn't mean it has to be a website full of sycophants who would never utter an ill word towards HSV. If you want that go visit ToyotaNation or another forum.


P.s to assume hsv pay people to say good things is yet again a slurr on there reputation... Please think about weather if you owned a legit business you would feel good about people accusing you of immoral practices ??? There a business but there also Human beings that do not deserve the attacks on there dignity. Food for thought.

Lol - HTFU. People are going to have different opinions to you on all sorts of things. I don't think anybody seriously thought you were paid by HSV for comment so don't worry - your and their reputations are still in tact.

Strick
17-10-2013, 03:04 PM
Great news that Eddy got the GTS into the 10s. Amazing what hes been able to do with not many tweaks at all!

rodders188
17-10-2013, 03:22 PM
Great news that Eddy got the GTS into the 10s. Amazing what hes been able to do with not many tweaks at all!

The GTS was parked at Actives , I asked Eddy his thoughts on the GTS and he is in Awe of the whole package HSV has put into the GTS. I heard this car and sounds awesome.http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/y458/rodmaloo/mail_zpsd8850f54.jpg (http://s1275.photobucket.com/user/rodmaloo/media/mail_zpsd8850f54.jpg.html)

Styles
17-10-2013, 03:44 PM
Do active do some visual mods with there packages ? Or would you just pull up next to one and not know you are about to be blitzed haha only to the speed limit of course ;)

07GTS
17-10-2013, 06:14 PM
amazing power, i thought of all the mods it took me to make that sort of power and the new GTS does it with ease, guess it might be needing a roll cage soon if the times keep going down...

white_lie
17-10-2013, 06:49 PM
He's allowed to run a flat 10 in it before needing anything else so a fair bit of lee-way.
Wouldn't surprise me to see it run a 9 eventually but whether this car gets a cage or not is another question.

I believe there's nothing visually different to this car and with the stock catback system, it wouldn't be making any extra noise to give it away.

VIP-427
20-10-2013, 09:57 AM
apologies if ive missed it but Is there a drive in drive out figure been reported for these minor tune & trinket modifications as yet?

Rocky
20-10-2013, 03:32 PM
Unless i'm missing something ?
I have a ls3 with wp230 fitted that puts out 1028 nm torque,it has a 224 230 114 lsa cam fitted,smaller pulley to blower,df 2.5 exhaust plus 1 3/4 headers.
The numbers that i see coming out of the new GTS to me arn't that all impressive.
I hope no one takes offence to my comment.


Cheers
Rocky

jkhsv
20-10-2013, 03:38 PM
You do know the GTS blower is a 1900?

Rocky
20-10-2013, 03:44 PM
Just saying, if you go to a bigger blower then you will see it's full potential

Cheers
Rocky

07GTS
20-10-2013, 04:06 PM
i have the same power aswell with all the mods to my old ls2 but the new gts has the same power with standard cam, intake, smaller 1900s/c and catback exhaust, basicly a pulley upgrade and headers and tune, just think what it could make with the bigger blower a cam and full exhaust would be way higher than ours with the same mods...

white_lie
20-10-2013, 04:43 PM
Guys, this is merely stage 1 of an ongoing project. Probably looking at around $2.5-3k worth of mods here for a 10 second car. Compared to the 15-20k package that you've added on to your car.

You may make similar power but have you run a 10 second pass in full street trim (including tyres)? I know I certainly can't manage it!

I am sure Ed will one day put the bigger blower on there but not until it has well and truly run out of puff.

07GTS
20-10-2013, 06:06 PM
i am still wondering how long the factory cast pistons in the lsa will last making that power tho or more with stage 2 or 3 kits, i know it has lower comp but the pressure/heat of making that power is still there, could the cast pistons be the main weakness...? or how much can the cast ones handle..?

Pickles
20-10-2013, 07:21 PM
Unless i'm missing something ?
I have a ls3 with wp230 fitted that puts out 1028 nm torque,it has a 224 230 114 lsa cam fitted,smaller pulley to blower,df 2.5 exhaust plus 1 3/4 headers.
The numbers that i see coming out of the new GTS to me arn't that all impressive.
I hope no one takes offence to my comment.

Rocky
Why would anyone take offence at your comment mate?. You are entitled to your view, but if you judge the GTS simply on its power, then you obviously do not know what the GTS is all about.
ANYONE can drop a powerful engine in a car, & get respectable POWER figures,...look at the GT R Spec,.....easy, anyone can do it, go down to Walkinshaw Performance, geez, they'll give you 400+ KW EASY, and if that's all you want, well then that's where you should go.
BUT, if you want a properly engineered car, with all the good stuff to go with the power, something that has proven itself in "stressful" circumstances, to be superior to the AMG C63,.....then ya go GTS.
Cheers, Pickles.

Rocky
20-10-2013, 07:23 PM
I will give you an idea on ls3 blown power
This happenen only aprox 3 hours ago,(no one drives my car except the old sand crab (wife)
I gave the son in law his first drive in the red rocket and he is the only person that i would fully trust under any condition,at 110ks
In sixth gear i said to him throw it into fourth and boot it even to my surprise she started to step out in the rear and the traction control took over.

Cheers rocky

Rocky
20-10-2013, 09:05 PM
Why would anyone take offence at your comment mate?. You are entitled to your view, but if you judge the GTS simply on its power, then you obviously do not know what the GTS is all about.
ANYONE can drop a powerful engine in a car, & get respectable POWER figures,...look at the GT R Spec,.....easy, anyone can do it, go down to Walkinshaw Performance, geez, they'll give you 400+ KW EASY, and if that's all you want, well then that's where you should go.
BUT, if you want a properly engineered car, with all the good stuff to go with the power, something that has proven itself in "stressful" circumstances, to be superior to the AMG C63,.....then ya go GTS.
Cheers, Pickles.

No offense Pickles but to me a GTS is a sports car not fancy accesseries (stick to the road and not a show pony)

Cheers
Rocky

white_lie
20-10-2013, 09:16 PM
Mate, my little 5.7 can do that, it's not a big ask with the torque these blowers make. I have more power at 2,500rpm than these new cars have at their peak.

I'm more impressed about getting that to the ground and accelerating away.
I'm also a lot more confident the new GTS's driveline will last a lot longer than yours or mine. Mine certainly wasn't engineered to handle the power I'm putting thru it!

Rocky
20-10-2013, 09:26 PM
Mate, my little 5.7 can do that, it's not a big ask with the torque these blowers make. I have more power at 2,500rpm than these new cars have at their peak.

I'm more impressed about getting that to the ground and accelerating away.
I'm also a lot more confident the new GTS's driveline will last a lot longer than yours or mine. Mine certainly wasn't engineered to handle the power I'm putting thru it!

It's only my opinion
By the way my name is Mark

Cheers
Rocky

Andrew_02
20-10-2013, 10:06 PM
Now we seem to be in part back into HSV forum mode.
I second the GTS as a whole car package god knows were my post is after going for a spin in
Eddies gts but I know I wrote that just as impressive as the pickup was, not the slightest
slip on a well worn road with street tyres. I doubt I would have believed this car could
change from an auto second gear start and into third without any slip or traction
light, even my grange 365 fwkw slips and that equals hoon laws if your going onto a highway and
put your foot down!. go from 0-110 in the gts and your all good.
I can't help but think just how much did the gts really cost hsv and now they are spreading the
cost out over all the VF range for several years.
my thoughts the gts is a mile about the rest of the hsv range, and it still has all the new VF
fit out inside. this is a stage one package as mentioned.
I must add all the new VF HSV's are bloody nice cars.
all great posts you just can't find this much detail on cars while queuing for the 1/4 mile or reading a car mag.
cheers andrew

jkhsv
20-10-2013, 10:10 PM
Guys, this is merely stage 1 of an ongoing project. Probably looking at around $2.5-3k worth of mods here for a 10 second car. Compared to the 15-20k package that you've added on to your car.

You may make similar power but have you run a 10 second pass in full street trim (including tyres)? I know I certainly can't manage it!

I am sure Ed will one day put the bigger blower on there but not until it has well and truly run out of puff.

A small outlay to get your street legal GTS into 10's is a bloody awesome package...

07GTS
20-10-2013, 10:12 PM
the gts must have a very well thought out traction control system and the torque vectoring to be in the 10's in street tyres with the power its now making, either that or actives is very good with the right foot...

Rocky
20-10-2013, 10:30 PM
the gts must have a very well thought out traction control system and the torque vectoring to be in the 10's in street tyres with the power its now making, either that or actives is very good with the right foot...

I would like to see times without pro driver

white_lie
20-10-2013, 10:40 PM
Ed and Shane are very good behind the wheel, certainly know how to pedal a car. I'd like to see the timeslip, just to see how fine a line they are cutting with getting it off the line but I'd be confident the average driver would yield low 11's without too much of a drama, particularly if they've done a few passes before.

Rocky
20-10-2013, 11:16 PM
People need to memember what GTS stands for

Rocky
20-10-2013, 11:43 PM
The new gts is a great car there is no doubt it

Brett240
21-10-2013, 12:44 PM
People need to memember what GTS stands for

Gran Turismo Sportivo, from the old Alfa/Ferrari days. you would say with that a comfortable/luxourious fast tourer with a sporting edge.

RCBVFGTS
21-10-2013, 12:58 PM
Gran Turismo Sportivo, from the old Alfa/Ferrari days. you would say with that a comfortable/luxourious fast tourer with a sporting edge.

I'm only a "young'un" compared to some of you folks but I thought GTS stood for Grand Touring Sports?

I can see Rocky's point, where previous GTS models i.e. the old HK days where a GTS was all about speed, muscle, brawn. Now those days seem to be long gone and you only have to look at other manufacturers, especially European luxury cars such as Mercedes, BMW, Audio, Porsche etc. and it's these exact manufacturers that HSV are taking on and winning.

Really, how many people these days are going to pay $100,000 for a GTS that is a stripped down racer with no luxury goodies? Just my opinion here but after all isn't that what "Grand Touring" is all about? Having immense power under your right foot to drive the large distances we have between capital cities in Australia yet getting there fresh and relaxed as possible with all the modern comfort and cons these days. When you look at the European cars I mentioned above that seems to be exactly what they have done especially for the German Autobahn's.

I'm not saying there isn't a place for HSV to bring out a stripped down racer like the GTS-R, or even that red beauty that didn't make it off the ground back in 2003 but business wise I could only imagine that HSV would sell more GTS spec'd up with goodies rather than without, and I think from the feedback from current purchasers this is the main reason people are buying the GTS

Nitrate
21-10-2013, 01:16 PM
I'm only a "young'un" compared to some of you folks but I thought GTS stood for Grand Touring Sports?

I can see Rocky's point, where previous GTS models i.e. the old HK days where a GTS was all about speed, muscle, brawn. Now those days seem to be long gone and you only have to look at other manufacturers, especially European luxury cars such as Mercedes, BMW, Audio, Porsche etc. and it's these exact manufacturers that HSV are taking on and winning.

Really, how many people these days are going to pay $100,000 for a GTS that is a stripped down racer with no luxury goodies? Just my opinion here but after all isn't that what "Grand Touring" is all about? Having immense power under your right foot to drive the large distances we have between capital cities in Australia yet getting there fresh and relaxed as possible with all the modern comfort and cons these days. When you look at the European cars I mentioned above that seems to be exactly what they have done especially for the German Autobahn's.

I'm not saying there isn't a place for HSV to bring out a stripped down racer like the GTS-R, or even that red beauty that didn't make it off the ground back in 2003 but business wise I could only imagine that HSV would sell more GTS spec'd up with goodies rather than without, and I think from the feedback from current purchasers this is the main reason people are buying the GTS
GTS-R LT4, now that would be nice!

Search google 'Camaro LT4 2015' if you would like to know more......

RCBVFGTS
21-10-2013, 02:28 PM
GTS-R LT4, now that would be nice!

Search google 'Camaro LT4 2015' if you would like to know more......


This is the one I was thinking of :D

http://www.supercars.net/cars/2484.html

hsv.286
21-10-2013, 02:36 PM
People need to memember what GTS stands for

G.t.s stands for "grand touring sports" and the 73hq ls was the "luxury sports"..

Strick
23-10-2013, 05:12 PM
New numbers from the GTS:

430KW Stock now 567KW - up 32%
740NM Stock now 1039NM - up 40%

Bibbs
23-10-2013, 05:30 PM
New numbers from the GTS:

430KW Stock now 567KW - up 32%
740NM Stock now 1039NM - up 40%

Those numbers are insane!

Is that still headers, pulley and tune?

moray066
23-10-2013, 05:44 PM
Strick, do you know what it's laying down at the treads?


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Strick
23-10-2013, 06:41 PM
This is Graemes post from a few weeks ago, and shows how he has worked it all out.

In regards to the mods im not 100% sure however i believe it has had new headers, pulley and tune. Dont quote me as im not sure, thats just from reading the thread. Pritty sure it still have the standard exhaust though!



I've sent the graph to Brady and I am sure he will upload it at his earliest convenience

The graph must be put into context from 2 points of view . . . firstly I am leaning Eddy for torque as much as peak KW . . . and secondly the "stock" power initially kept rising all the way past 6200RPM & now that the tune has increased, the power & torque is at the point where its run out of injector duty cycle at 5700RPM . . . which will be corrected tomorrow if he has them in stock

OK . . . Now for the numbers . . . It started with 467RWHP and now has 551 . . . it has had more peak power than this recently but timing changes for max torque has given us less peak KW and no more injector so expect that to come back soon

467 RWHP equated to 348RWKW which is the 430 that HSV & GM claim at the Flywheel on their engine Dyno's - using the increase from 348 to the now 411RWKW and applying the 22% gives Eddy 502FWKW with more to come with injectors , more tuning to suit the injectors plus a dedicated OTR

Now for the torque - it started with 550 ftlb (Dyno dynamics reading) and went to 695 . . . . once again the 550 is 740 in HSV/GM speak and the correct maths to calculate that is 35% . . . so we take the new torque figure of 695 and apply the 35% and whamo - 938nm . . . .

So there's your numbers thus far guys with more to come with the injectors etc - I'm sure some will debate my maths and some will agree - but in the end this is the most honest and accurate way I can explained the increases in output that Ed has achieved . . . all through the stock HSV bimodal rear mufflers

430KW is now 502KW
740NM is now 938NM

I hope that all makes some sense!!!! . . and . . . I wonder what we will be reporting next . . .

zigaus001
23-10-2013, 08:25 PM
Very little done mechanically from what I've heard.
Perfect stage one package I guess its only had bigger injectors, smaller pulley on SC , pace makers headers, and tuned stunned numbers really, can only imagine what a cam full exhaust and induction will do maybe a heart beat SC ?? (boom)
my GTS is getting the Active treatment next week so looking forward to it been looking forward to this for awhile now I am very lucky to live less than 2km from this shop. The premium tuner in aust for this great product

Andrew_02
23-10-2013, 09:09 PM
Shouldn't it be running out of fuel with this hp increase? I don't know the pump and line sizes.

Bibbs
23-10-2013, 09:31 PM
my GTS is getting the Active treatment next week so looking forward to it been looking forward to this for awhile now I am very lucky to live less than 2km from this shop. The premium tuner in aust for this great product

What you getting done? They are not too far from me either.

zigaus001
24-10-2013, 10:50 PM
have exh,otr getting cam and maffless tune different otr , for now then next yr heads rip shifter


What you getting done? They are not too far from me either.

jkhsv
25-10-2013, 09:47 AM
have exh,otr getting cam and maffless tune different otr , for now then next yr heads rip shifter

What did you have done to the exhaust ?

rodders188
25-10-2013, 11:20 AM
have exh,otr getting cam and maffless tune different otr , for now then next yr heads rip shifter

I got there 2b cam in my maloo LS2 a couple weeks back. The driveability is as good as stock. What size are you getting, just ask Eddy to set the idle speed at what you comfortable with..

Sniper
27-10-2013, 10:30 AM
New numbers from the GTS:

430KW Stock now 567KW - up 32%
740NM Stock now 1039NM - up 40%

From this weeks discussions with Ed I feel as though stage one and two are complete . . . I also think going to the next stage will possibly take the "niceness" out of the car . . .

Pumping that much torque thru a 2 1/4 " exhaust outlet is almost hard to believe . . . 2 1/2" rear mufflers with a Bi-Modal actuator would be my next step - if at all . .

Tyres have reached the end of their ability too with Ed struggling to repeat the 10.9 . . . Last week he ran a 11.04 at 129mph . . . the week before he ran 10.99 at 124mph . . . so it's not hard to see that he continues to make more power and torque

kristofferjon
29-10-2013, 05:37 AM
Excellent results so far, great work.

kristofferjon
07-11-2013, 07:34 AM
Any more updates available?

Nath
15-11-2013, 07:49 PM
saw this at the 1/4 on Wednesday night - sounded great!

moray066
15-11-2013, 10:08 PM
saw this at the 1/4 on Wednesday night - sounded great!

What times did it run?


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Nath
17-11-2013, 01:21 AM
Have a video of this on the dyno from today - the intake snorkel snaps off throttle like a cap gun! Ran a couple of passes of 64x+

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v714/nbendy/Mobile%20Uploads/th_trim9C1873FE-B7D7-4DDD-8823-830D42645F77_zps6aa65f61.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v714/nbendy/Mobile%20Uploads/trim9C1873FE-B7D7-4DDD-8823-830D42645F77_zps6aa65f61.mp4)

Andrew_02
17-11-2013, 04:52 PM
Great vid. Would have been good to see a stock gts at the track last night. The v6 vf ute ran 14 . 87 so 14.9 guess got to take it home thats fast for a std v6.how good are the jet cars.

jkhsv
20-11-2013, 10:46 PM
Friend just posted on fb that Actives supercharged VF SS ute ran a 9.9@140mph on its first pass at the Plex tonight.......

white_lie
21-11-2013, 06:13 AM
That car was built for one reason only - to shut another workshop up. Got to love ed!

Barryjnr
21-11-2013, 08:18 AM
Awesome vid....ute looks the goods <check out their facebook page>

Nath
21-11-2013, 01:15 PM
That car was built for one reason only - to shut another workshop up. Got to love ed!

lol I have heard that on more than one occasion now :D

Sniper
18-01-2014, 07:42 PM
I got to spend a fair mount of time in this rocket and its quite good and goes damn hard . . . for those that plan to keep their GTS over time it's worth a few mods to bring the performance up to this level . .

gman1270
23-01-2014, 12:56 AM
I got to spend a fair mount of time in this rocket and its quite good and goes damn hard . . . for those that plan to keep their GTS over time it's worth a few mods to bring the performance up to this level . .

Called in to see Ed on Tuesday to work out a Stage 2 upgrade for my GTS, whilst we had the bonnet up on his GTS discussing the upgrades he asked the magic question "do you want to go for a ride" Fark yeh and I was hoping to be asked was my answer.

Well I thought the stock GTS was awesome till Ed showed me otherwise, I think I said FFFFAAAARRRKKK several time as I was shoved back into the seat, I'm so impressed with what Ed has done to his GTS, cruising along it just feels and sounds like a normal GTS with no signed of what mods have been done and the next moment it's an absolute ballistic weapon, Ed said he just love driving this car and will grab any excuse to jump in for a run, I don't blame him. :-)

A big thanks to Ed for showing me what potential the GTS is capable of, but for me a stage 2 will be a very nice starting point, till I get bored ;-).

Sniper
26-01-2014, 11:11 AM
Called in to see Ed on Tuesday to work out a Stage 2 upgrade for my GTS, whilst we had the bonnet up on his GTS discussing the upgrades he asked the magic question "do you want to go for a ride" Fark yeh and I was hoping to be asked was my answer.

Well I thought the stock GTS was awesome till Ed showed me otherwise, I think I said FFFFAAAARRRKKK several time as I was shoved back into the seat, I'm so impressed with what Ed has done to his GTS,-).

Good to hear your progressing - Ed's is a weapon . . . I had my weekly catch up with him on Friday night and he had misplaced your phone number . . . Whoops . . . I think you 2 need to swap mobile numbers so this doesn't happen again

gman1270
26-01-2014, 07:58 PM
Good to hear your progressing - Ed's is a weapon . . . I had my weekly catch up with him on Friday night and he had misplaced your phone number . . . Whoops . . . I think you 2 need to swap mobile numbers so this doesn't happen again

Thanks Sniper will give Ed a call on Tuesday. Cheers

gman1270
06-02-2014, 10:30 AM
Ed and his team completed a Stage 1 upgrade to my GTS yesterday and the before and after results speak for themselves, this car is now a absolute pleasure to dive, it's just like a standard GTS when cruising along but becomes a beast when you put your foot into it.

All of Ed's R & D on his own GTS has paid off 538.2 RWHP (401.3 KW) and 900 NMFW Torque are a fantastic results for a Stage 1 upgrade which is more than most other stage 2 upgrades. Ed just live and breaths what he can do with the LSA motors, he has Stage 2 & 3 covered as well some other special upgraded he is currently working on for the LSA.

Big thanks to Ed and his team, I am one very happy customer. Cheers Grant

http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy313/gman1270/Stage1_zps8d7e4a66.jpg
http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy313/gman1270/Stage1-_zpsf9586647.jpg

johnfhall
06-02-2014, 10:39 AM
Ed and his team completed a Stage 1 upgrade to my GTS yesterday and the before and after results speak for themselves, this car is now a absolute pleasure to dive, it's just like a standard GTS when cruising along but becomes a beast when you put your foot into it.

All of Ed's R & D on his own GTS has paid off 538.2 RWHP (401.3 KW) and 900 NMFW Torque are a fantastic results for a Stage 1 upgrade which is more than most other stage 2 upgrades. Ed just live and breaths what he can do with the LSA motors, he has Stage 2 & 3 covered as well some other special upgraded he is currently working on for the LSA.

Big thanks to Ed and his team, I am one very happy customer. Cheers Grant



Fantastic Grant... Shame I'm in Victoria, or I might consider it.

Did Ed suggest cruise fuel consumption improvement, or is that a dream? After the W I'm finding the LSA a gas guzzler, even while driving like an old mole. Which I am! 15.6l/100/km over 2000km city, av. 45kph.

Anyhoo' enjoy.

John

gman1270
06-02-2014, 08:57 PM
Fantastic Grant... Shame I'm in Victoria, or I might consider it.

Did Ed suggest cruise fuel consumption improvement, or is that a dream? After the W I'm finding the LSA a gas guzzler, even while driving like an old mole. Which I am! 15.6l/100/km over 2000km city, av. 45kph.

Anyhoo' enjoy.

John

Hi John, yes we are a lucky bunch having Eddy here in the West :-).

Man oh man that is crap consumption I think I get 15.2 Lts per 100 Kms, just kidding :-)

Fuel consumption was never part of our conversation with the upgrade, I have a belief that I drive a V8 for the pleasure of the power and note, and that fuel consumption will suffer with more power, your W427 had 375 kW, if you increased that up to 430kw I'm certain to consumption would go Nth.

Anyway I'm certain that it's better than your old HK & HQ GTS :-), I averaged around 12mpg with my old HX 253 V8 and at best maybe 16 mpg. It was a great motor spoiled by all that anti pollution crap (Those were the days)

In saying all that it's a discussion you need to have with your tuner if it really worried you and see what they can do.

Cheers

Grant

07GTS
06-02-2014, 09:18 PM
15.6 isnt bad for a blown 6.2, the best i could do with the standard engine n/a was 14.8 over 1 tank exactly 500km purely round town, and that was driving extremely easy so easy that id never do it again, how does it go with highway fuel economy..? id hope it to be around the 10 or less..?

johnfhall
06-02-2014, 10:10 PM
Hi John, yes we are a lucky bunch having Eddy here in the West :-).

Man oh man that is crap consumption I think I get 15.2 Lts per 100 Kms, just kidding :-)

Fuel consumption was never part of our conversation with the upgrade, I have a belief that I drive a V8 for the pleasure of the power and note, and that fuel consumption will suffer with more power, your W427 had 375 kW, if you increased that up to 430kw I'm certain to consumption would go Nth.

Anyway I'm certain that it's better than your old HK & HQ GTS :-), I averaged around 12mpg with my old HX 253 V8 and at best maybe 16 mpg. It was a great motor spoiled by all that anti pollution crap (Those were the days)

In saying all that it's a discussion you need to have with your tuner if it really worried you and see what they can do.

Cheers

Grant

True Grant. I keep forgetting the VF s/c sucks 100hp or whatever to drive it...

And yeah, the 327 and 350 were really gas guzzlers. Fuel injection and electronics gave a lot back.

I guess I'll have a talk to a tuner anyway...

Drive safe.

gman1270
06-02-2014, 10:11 PM
15.6 isnt bad for a blown 6.2, the best i could do with the standard engine n/a was 14.8 over 1 tank exactly 500km purely round town, and that was driving extremely easy so easy that id never do it again, how does it go with highway fuel economy..? id hope it to be around the 10 or less..?

07GTS, I was getting around 10 before the stage 1 upgrade on the freeway and would expect it to rise to around 11 or so.

white_lie
06-02-2014, 10:19 PM
Generally speaking, an aftermarket tune will yield much better fuel economy than the factory tune, so you can have your cake and eat it too. Any initial "increase" in fuel usage is more due to the right foot going down further on a more regular basis because of the new found power/thrill. It will decrease once you get over it ;)

100hp to drive the blower? Can't tell if serious or not... I hope not!

07GTS
06-02-2014, 11:33 PM
Generally speaking, an aftermarket tune will yield much better fuel economy than the factory tune, so you can have your cake and eat it too. Any initial "increase" in fuel usage is more due to the right foot going down further on a more regular basis because of the new found power/thrill. It will decrease once you get over it ;)

100hp to drive the blower? Can't tell if serious or not... I hope not!i found that with mine, from factory it was bout 10 per 100 cruising then after mafless/exhaust/tune went to high 7-8's per 100 and now with cam/blower im back at 10-10.5 per hunderd, so just under double factory power for the same fuel saving when cruising, all tho use the right foot and ur tank goes in no time but thats where the fun is... think they said when cruising the blower uses 2hp because its bypassed not sure how much hp it uses when in full force tho