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Sniper
06-09-2013, 04:58 PM
I thought the Gen F would deserve its own "mods" thread . . . I hope to see some interesting data and ideas in this thread and recommendations for suppliers etc etc to from all members - not just VF owners as some of the mods listed will apply to previous HSV's

My first Mod will be the lights . . . without a doubt the thing that annoys me the most about the Gen F visually is the headlights . . . those that are sharp will probably see that HSV have photoshopped less yellow into the headlight beams on many of their images . . . but if you look at "Nitrate's" avatar you will see exactly what the "colour temp" looks like in the real world . . .

The question is - do I go for 4300k or 5000k??? . . . I must have the OE look and it appears that the DRL's on the Gen F are "whiter" than the E2/3's . . . so I am leaning towards 5000k . . . and do I go 35w or 55w? . . . .

Has anyone done the HID/Xenon thing recently and what's the latest tech in HID . . . . is Digital Ballasts still the latest thing?

Sniper
07-09-2013, 08:40 AM
Mod number 2 will be the Aerial . . . I haven't done the research yet but based on the E3 R&D . . quality of reception is only gained byusing a quality part and the Honda Aerial worked a treat - many others I tried had dodgy reception in marginal area's . . . I don't think the Honda part will mount as nice on the Holden housing on the VF as it did on the VE so I will be looking long and hard for a good solution. . .

I feel the end choice will be a 6" (15cm) unit from another brand . . .

Cbegnell
07-09-2013, 09:42 AM
Mod number 2 will be the Aerial . . . I haven't done the research yet but based on the E3 R&D . . quality of reception is only gained byusing a quality part and the Honda Aerial worked a treat - many others I tried had dodgy reception in marginal area's . . . I don't think the Honda part will mount as nice on the Holden housing on the VF as it did on the VE so I will be looking long and hard for a good solution. . .

I feel the end choice will be a 6" (15cm) unit from another brand . . .

Can you let me know what you find please Sniper.

dannym81
07-09-2013, 09:54 AM
I've been wondering about the aerial as I have crappy reception in my e3.

eggy
07-09-2013, 09:58 AM
Hmmm...interesting re Honda aerial. Where did you get it from, and what model?

Regarding hids, 5000k will still look oem, but have a nice white colour to it. Don't worry about 55w...you'll just get more oncoming motorists flashing you, and you risk more heat buildup.
Ballast are really small these days..the eBay Holden specific ones that replace the cover with one with integrated ballast works great, and very tidy. Not sure if headlight is same in VF though.
You'll need to change parker lights to LEDs too if you want everything to look homogenous.

Sniper
07-09-2013, 10:17 AM
Hmmm...interesting re Honda aerial. Where did you get it from, and what model?

Regarding hids, 5000k will still look oem, but have a nice white colour to it. Don't worry about 55w...you'll just get more oncoming motorists flashing you, and you risk more heat buildup.
Ballast are really small these days..the eBay Holden specific ones that replace the cover with one with integrated ballast works great, and very tidy. Not sure if headlight is same in VF though.
You'll need to change parker lights to LEDs too if you want everything to look homogenous.

Cheers for the HID tip . . . it's a couple of years sinse I have done any of this sort of stuff . . .

I'm pretty sure it was a Jazz item, but all Honda's may be the same . . I'll check the 427 later and let you know

Yeah, I'm leaning towards the 5000k but wasn't aware of a Holden Specific kit with replacement rubber boots - yum - can you flick me a link for them please . . I'm too lazy to go on EBay

Cbegnell
07-09-2013, 10:52 AM
I've used this guy a few times.

His kits are awesome and the instructions are really easy to follow.....
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/6000K-HID-KIT-FOR-HOLDEN-VE-SERIES-2-II-COMMODORE-FOG-LIGHTS-SV6-SS-SSV-BERLINA-/160713277716?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item256b420114&_uhb=1

Sniper
07-09-2013, 11:02 AM
That's a pretty good piece of tech . . I need to find out if the rear housing on the VF headlight assembly is the sae as VE - I hope so as it would be easy!!

. . . Sadly they do not have 5000k but I will do a bit more research on "colour temp" before I decide!!!

Cbegnell
07-09-2013, 11:24 AM
Last time i bought from him he did have 5000k kits.

If he doesn't have them listed email him and he will put the kit up that you need.

Nitrate
07-09-2013, 12:37 PM
This is who I am going to contact in relation to HID, reason 'CANBUS Digital Ballasts'. You will see by the details in the following link on why...

http://www.point-blank.com.au/H4-Single-Beam-35W-Philips-PL-Slimline-CANBUS-HID-Kit_p_254.html

Nitrate
07-09-2013, 12:44 PM
This is who I purchased the aerial from, this is specific to the VF as the VE is different...

http://www.originalpartsgroup.com.au/Antenna%2D%2DAerial%2D%2D%2DHSV_c0DFC2E6F-45DF-4693-A108-8AD149771A62

Nitrate
07-09-2013, 12:47 PM
Other cosmetic mods coming, LSA Carbon Engine Cover

http://www.lgmotorsports.com/product_info.php?products_id=2363

Sniper
07-09-2013, 12:49 PM
This is who I am going to contact in relation to HID, reason 'CANBUS Digital Ballasts'. ]

. . . your on the money with your Tech mate . . the very reason for this thread is to expose the good and the bad of what's viable for our cars and gather as much info as possible to make imformed decisions that in the case of electronic enhancements, the choices we make do not throw up other issues with ou cars!!!

Nitrate
07-09-2013, 01:04 PM
Stage 1 engine http://www.lingenfelter.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=LPE&Product_Code=L250300709&Category_Code=C412#.UiqXEmthiSM

Install and tune by Sam's Performance in Sydney...

Then I won't be doing anything else until the car is at least a couple of years old.

Anyway enough about what I am doing, let's see what everybody else comes up with :)

Sniper
07-09-2013, 01:37 PM
Stage 1 engine http://www.lingenfelter.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=LPE&Product_Code=L250300709&Category_Code=C412#.UiqXEmthiSM

Install and tune by Sam's Performance in Sydney...

Anyway enough about what I am doing, let's see what everybody else comes up with :)

Good choice . . . Sam will look after you well . . I haven't visited him for a couple of years but it was always an enjoyable chat . . I certainly look forward to your result as I expect massive torque gains with the LSA when slightly modded . . . .

Nitrate
08-09-2013, 01:51 PM
Can't help myself, something else for the cosmetic conscious...

http://www.southerncarparts.com/2010-2013-camaro-zl1-stainless-steel-engine-valve-and-coil-cover-p-4223.html

here is an install vid as well.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vVVSnXHhEpc&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DvVVSnXHhEpc

Sniper
08-09-2013, 05:06 PM
My next mod . . . another first day mod - is the extra bonnet strut . . .

This will be relatively easy with the correct insert . . . the OE bracket (pre-painted) . . . and the strut . . . . should take about 30 mins and I will detail this mod with a summary and instruction list for others inc part numbers

. . . . apart from Tint, a coat of 2 pack Epoxy Paint Sealant and a can of Scotchgard for the carpet mats, this will be pretty much the basic/simple/cosmetic Mods . . .

jkhsv
08-09-2013, 06:37 PM
I want to get the DVD to stay playing when taken out of Park.....

Sniper
08-09-2013, 06:57 PM
I want to get the DVD to stay playing when taken out of Park.....

There has to be someone in your territory that can suss that out!

Maybe talk to Lachlan Riddell as he would know all the Tech savvy guys on the Coast!!!

Sniper
08-09-2013, 07:04 PM
The first of the "hard to achieve" Mods with be the Steering Wheel!!! . . . . once i source a prototype Chevy wheel and crack the electronics/wiring/harness this will be pretty straight forward . . . at the same time the Wheel will get a fresh leather/suede combo rework to finish off the look/feel of the interior

jkhsv
08-09-2013, 07:30 PM
There has to be someone in your territory that can suss that out!

Maybe talk to Lachlan Riddell as he would know all the Tech savvy guys on the Coast!!!

Dont know who Lachlan is ? :confused:

Sniper
08-09-2013, 08:06 PM
Dont know who Lachlan is ? :confused:

Oops . . . he owns Chiptorque and has been on the Coast tuning forever . . . I wouldn't think he has the Tech himself but I'm confident he can steer you to the right ppl to fix your desires

. . . On a side issue . . Lol . . Back in 2003 he led the protest at Summernats against Ed and the 1375rwhp run on the Dyno (Gold VH) alledging Ed used Nitrous and put up $2k to prove it!?!? . . and had to cough up half hour later when they took the intake manifold off and proved that Ed was legit/legal . . was a very funny time with the boys from the West ready to take out the Easterners in a War . . . eastoners were scattering in all directions trying to rake up the $2k in cash . . :) . . . .

18 months later at the HvF Show in Melb they had a laugh a shook hands . . . another funny moment!!!

LS3 050
10-09-2013, 09:45 PM
I want to get the DVD to stay playing when taken out of Park.....

I had that done to my E1 by No Limit car Electronics in Melbourne. Give them a call 03 96860023, if you are interstate they can send you the module for you to do it yourself.

jkhsv
11-09-2013, 07:39 AM
I had that done to my E1 by No Limit car Electronics in Melbourne. Give them a call 03 96860023, if you are interstate they can send you the module for you to do it yourself.

Fanx will give them a call !!!

Nitrate
04-10-2013, 09:36 AM
Hey Graeme, what are you thoughts on the GTS rear ride height?

Looking at some of the web pictures I think it needs to be lowered a tad.

Anyway will check it out once I see mine in the flesh.....

gman1270
04-10-2013, 09:43 AM
Hey Graeme, what are you thoughts on the GTS rear ride height?

Looking at some of the web pictures I think it needs to be lowered a tad.

Anyway will check it out once I see mine in the flesh.....

When I saw Ed at Active last week that's one of his plans is to lower the whole car by approx 25mm, not just the back.

Nitrate
04-10-2013, 10:39 AM
When I saw Ed at Active last week that's one of his plans is to lower the whole car by approx 25mm, not just the back.

OK, then it's not just me thinkin that then.....

Sniper
04-10-2013, 10:52 AM
OK, then it's not just me thinkin that then.....

There will be plenty getting lowered . . . . I won't be as aggressive as Ed . . . it would be good to get a set of W427 springs . . . !!!

Nitrate
04-10-2013, 10:56 AM
There will be plenty getting lowered . . . . I won't be as aggressive as Ed . . . it would be good to get a set of W427 springs . . . !!!

Thanks Graeme, have taken note....

How you going, busy?

Brett240
04-10-2013, 12:07 PM
i want to lower the wagon 20mm as well but i don't want to chuck any old lowering springs. i'd be interested to see what someone here that knows their stuff will do.

i'm keen on retaining the same feel as the car has now, just a little lower.

Sniper
04-10-2013, 12:45 PM
i want to lower the wagon 20mm as well but i don't want to chuck any old lowering springs. i'd be interested to see what someone here that knows their stuff will do.

i'm keen on retaining the same feel as the car has now, just a little lower.

I'll be researching Eibach and Kings . . Ed will probably use Kings but I will lean towards Eibach if I cannot get my hands on a set of W427 springs

VX15ANNIV
04-10-2013, 08:32 PM
What struts and shocks would you use Graeme...if you changed springs?

Sniper
04-10-2013, 09:03 PM
I'd stay with the MRC OE stuff

Nitrate
18-10-2013, 07:40 PM
OK received my first little mod today, Stubby Aerial, thought you guys might be interested.

This has been engineered specifically for the Gen F, don't know if you can see by the pics, the quality is very very nice....

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/holmesben/Aerial_1_zps2da2f8bb.jpg

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/holmesben/Aerial_2_zpsaf47826b.jpg

Nitrate
18-10-2013, 08:39 PM
Come on Graeme, we all need you to come back, your opinions and suggestions are very valued by all......

TAXDODG
20-10-2013, 01:52 PM
OK received my first little mod today, Stubby Aerial, thought you guys might be interested.

This has been engineered specifically for the Gen F, don't know if you can see by the pics, the quality is very very nice....

Have you fitted this yet? I'm finding my factory unit it pretty poor for reception, more so because I'm rural SA, but wondering if this is due to the sensitivity of the Bose radio or more the style of the aerial?

Nitrate
21-10-2013, 07:02 AM
Have you fitted this yet? I'm finding my factory unit it pretty poor for reception, more so because I'm rural SA, but wondering if this is due to the sensitivity of the Bose radio or more the style of the aerial?
Hope to fit it later this week, it's more for cosmetic reason, don't think it will improve reception. Will let you know if it does though :)

Brett240
21-10-2013, 12:40 PM
Hope to fit it later this week, it's more for cosmetic reason, don't think it will improve reception. Will let you know if it does though :)

where'd you get it from?

jkhsv
25-10-2013, 02:54 PM
Walkinshaw W497 report.......

http://www.motoring.com.au/reviews/2013/sports/holden-special-vehicles/clubsport/walkinshaw-w497-2013-road-test-39642?utm_source=buffer&utm_campaign=Buffer&utm_content=buffer2ae22&utm_medium=facebook

RCBVFGTS
25-10-2013, 03:29 PM
Walkinshaw W497 report.......

http://www.motoring.com.au/reviews/2013/sports/holden-special-vehicles/clubsport/walkinshaw-w497-2013-road-test-39642?utm_source=buffer&utm_campaign=Buffer&utm_content=buffer2ae22&utm_medium=facebook


It's great no questions asked, but wouldn't you be better off buying a GTS, getting a retune and change the pulley and be up at the same kw's and have a better resale value? I'll happily stick to my GTS :)

07GTS
25-10-2013, 06:40 PM
i have one of those type aerial's on mine looks soo much better and reception is ok but i never use the radio anyway always mp3's

Nitrate
26-10-2013, 06:25 AM
where'd you get it from?

http://www.originalpartsgroup.com.au/Antenna%2D%2DAerial%2D%2D%2DHSV_c0DFC2E6F-45DF-4693-A108-8AD149771A62
:)

jaficom
03-11-2013, 11:49 AM
First mod completed

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jkhsv
05-11-2013, 09:59 AM
First mod completed

48944895

Very nice mod !!!

Mikhail
05-11-2013, 03:25 PM
Is that the Roto-Fab cover?

jaficom
05-11-2013, 07:47 PM
Nope, just got it carbon fibre dipped, it's just a type of film applied over the original cover

Mikhail
05-11-2013, 07:55 PM
Looks great.

mr G.T.S
06-11-2013, 11:35 PM
Hi guys,

Im new to the forum and have recently purchased a new Gen F GTS picked up the beauty last week. I am already keen for some mods i.e exhaust & tune. Has anyone worked on any GTS as yet ? I am finding it hard to find someone that has to understand how they go post mods. I live in Sydney any help would be great

Thanks

mickwebs
07-11-2013, 07:24 AM
have a read of this thread

http://www.hsvforum.com.au/showthread.php?12218-Active-s-GenF-GTS

RCBVFGTS
07-11-2013, 12:11 PM
I know this isn't the biggest or most expensive mod on the market, but for those that need their HSV for towing but don't like the tow tongue always on their vehicle I thought this may have been of interest.

I purchased a HSV Tow hitch cover last week from here on EBay

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/221075520796?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

Turned up a few days ago and looks really good. Easy to fit with an allen key (comes supplied with one)

jkhsv
07-11-2013, 01:30 PM
Harrop Stage 3 Kit Coming Soon...


http://youtu.be/swd1TWB7Up4

FollowTheSapper
07-11-2013, 03:01 PM
Harrop Stage 3 Kit Coming Soon...

Good to see they are setting an example for all car enthusiasts and keeping it on a closed road!

RCBVFGTS
07-11-2013, 03:17 PM
Good to see they are setting an example for all car enthusiasts and keeping it on a closed road!


Those gents have been using that road now for many years for "product testing and development :lol:. I bet Neil Burns and Ken Nunn would have a story or three :lol: :D

I noticed the 580 sticker on the rear end so it will be interesting to see what they have come up with. When its got the name "HARROP" on it you know it's first class!!!!!!!

VIP-427
07-11-2013, 06:42 PM
Good to see they are setting an example for all car enthusiasts and keeping it on a closed road!

Sometimes.... real world testing needs to be done on real world streets.......:lol:

mr G.T.S
07-11-2013, 07:06 PM
that is crazy, how much for that??? keen to know what stage 1 & 2 look like?

jaficom
07-11-2013, 07:09 PM
mr G.T.S.

My Gen-F GTS is currently in getting new go fast bits put on. Give Sonny a call or drop in to have a look.

Autowerks Automotive
http://www.autowerksautomotive.com.au

mr G.T.S
07-11-2013, 07:16 PM
where and who can I talk to to get this done???

gotta have it


Harrop Stage 3 Kit Coming Soon...


http://youtu.be/swd1TWB7Up4

RCBVFGTS
07-11-2013, 07:33 PM
mr G.T.S.

My Gen-F GTS is currently in getting new go fast bits put on. Give Sonny a call or drop in to have a look.

Autowerks Automotive
http://www.autowerksautomotive.com.au


Hi mate

Can I ask what you're getting done?

mr G.T.S
07-11-2013, 10:10 PM
awesome thanks for your help

I think they are based next to autostyle in beverly hills

will do not too far from me as well.

appreciate it


mr G.T.S.

My Gen-F GTS is currently in getting new go fast bits put on. Give Sonny a call or drop in to have a look.

Autowerks Automotive
http://www.autowerksautomotive.com.au

Sales@Harrop
08-11-2013, 11:36 AM
where and who can I talk to to get this done???

gotta have it
Any Harrop performance dealer can assist you with any of the stage packs ..
AL

jaficom
08-11-2013, 07:14 PM
awesome thanks for your help

I think they are based next to autostyle in beverly hills

will do not too far from me as well.

appreciate it

Not really sure what he's up to, I know a custom exhaust, pulley change, maybe a cam, and a good tune. I trust Sonny to do the right thing so I gave him free reign.

And yep, Penshurst St Beverly Hills, just off Stoney Creek RD. Mine should be there till at least next Saturday

jkhsv
09-11-2013, 10:22 AM
Look forward to seeing the results...Sonny is a whiz kid....

mr G.T.S
09-11-2013, 03:17 PM
im going down next week to see him and tal about what he can do , I cant wait to unleash the beast its amazing having a look at the stage 3 Harrop kit and how mental this car can go. I use to have a Audi TTRS tuned to the shit house and did 0-100 in 3.8sec and nothing could stop me however nothing feels like a V8

jkhsv
09-11-2013, 07:59 PM
Harrops aftermarket exhaust for GTS

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=560120727408728&set=a.161231640630974.42257.112028962217909&type=1&relevant_count=1&ref=nf

Nitrate
10-11-2013, 11:16 AM
Harrops aftermarket exhaust for GTS

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=560120727408728&set=a.161231640630974.42257.112028962217909&type=1&relevant_count=1&ref=nf
John, what's your opinion on the stages, would you stick with stage 1 or go to stage 3, I think someone on here stated enjoy the stock for a year or so then look at some upgrades. I find myself struggling a bit with making a decision. Any comments would be appreciated.....

moray066
10-11-2013, 01:53 PM
I think someone on here stated enjoy the stock for a year or so then look at some upgrades. I find myself struggling a bit with making a decision. Any comments would be appreciated.....

If you are going to modify it, why wait? If cash isn't an issue then the only thing that would be holding me back would be to wait and see what results different workshops get. However if you have a particular workshop you trust, then just decide what you want done and how far you are prepared to go with the car. With the GTS being such a great platform, I'd be going with headers, pulley upgrade and tune. That way you get great performance improvements and retain OEM drivability. Also if you keep the standard parts (which is just the headers and pulley) you can always put it back to stock. Not that you ever would! Lol


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Nitrate
10-11-2013, 03:34 PM
If you are going to modify it, why wait? If cash isn't an issue then the only thing that would be holding me back would be to wait and see what results different workshops get. However if you have a particular workshop you trust, then just decide what you want done and how far you are prepared to go with the car. With the GTS being such a great platform, I'd be going with headers, pulley upgrade and tune. That way you get great performance improvements and retain OEM drivability. Also if you keep the standard parts (which is just the headers and pulley) you can always put it back to stock. Not that you ever would! Lol


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Thanks for the info moray, it's good to get others views, stage one is a give me. It's where to from there that I am struggling with. And yes will be keeping all the original gear to get dusty over time in the attic storage :)

jkhsv
11-11-2013, 10:02 AM
Well it is the question Ben...how much power do you really need and how fast do you want to go.... Actives have shown how fast bolt ons can get you.

moray066
11-11-2013, 12:37 PM
Nitrate, what will you be using the car for? How do you want the car to behave? Do you mind loosing drivability. Many on here can offer suggestions but you probably need to speak to a few workshops, then you can discuss their suggestions on here, guys and gals on here will let you know which ones are trying to take you for a ride.
But as JK has said, with the gains available with basic bolt on's and a tune, do you need more? One thing I will add, I have been contemplating doing a cam in my VE, but what holds me back is the fact I really love how the car behaves now, I drive the car probably once a month but enjoy every minute in it. Weather I'm in traffic or getting stuck into it on some open roads it is behaved when it needs to be and quick enough when I want it to be.
As most enthusiasts we always want more power but you have to decide what you really want out of the car.
How far you go depends also on what you want to spend, options are:
Could change the blower to a 2300 which flows for air, in turn making more power
Or
If you wanted it to be different from the rest could look at going a twin turbo set up!
Again you'd have to speak to someone more knowledgable then me to enquirer about the mechanical limits of the bottom end.
Could also look at doing a full build, forged internals/ stroker crank? Again I'm not sure what is available for the LSA


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RCBVFGTS
11-11-2013, 02:06 PM
Ok guys give me your honest opinions

I really like the machine finished wheel appearance, black just doesn't do much for me

I really like some of the wheels that Ron has out at present and I'm thinking of these in the machine finish

http://www.harrop.com.au/wheels_detail.php?prod=HF-CA3P

OR

http://www.harrop.com.au/wheels_detail.php?prod=HF-CF3C-CON

Cbegnell
11-11-2013, 02:17 PM
Ok guys give me your honest opinions

I really like the machine finished wheel appearance, black just doesn't do much for me

I really like some of the wheels that Ron has out at present and I'm thinking of these in the machine finish

http://www.harrop.com.au/wheels_detail.php?prod=HF-CA3P

OR

http://www.harrop.com.au/wheels_detail.php?prod=HF-CF3C-CON

I like the CA3P's but thats just me. But I'm also a big fan of the factory standard wheels. I guess it comes down to your opinion in the end.

Strick
11-11-2013, 03:02 PM
GF3C for me, would look great good. Have you got a price, from what ive enquired about your looking at about 5000 which opens up the market for a whole lot of wheels eg Simmons, show wheels etc etc

RCBVFGTS
11-11-2013, 03:15 PM
Hi guys

I like the factory wheels to Chris, they are a nice looking wheel I personally just like a machine finish on wheels. What do you think my chances of a custom set from HSV would be???? I'm thinking buckley's so I thought I might have a look around and see what else is out there. I really think the factory HSV would look great with a machine finish

Strick, mate feel free to post up some other wheels if you like. I love Simmons wheels. had a set on my old VL Turbo many moons ago now. 17" fully polished and they looked sensational. I jut haven't seen a lot of wheels that take my fancy these days.

Cbegnell
11-11-2013, 03:38 PM
Hi guys

I like the factory wheels to Chris, they are a nice looking wheel I personally just like a machine finish on wheels. What do you think my chances of a custom set from HSV would be???? I'm thinking buckley's so I thought I might have a look around and see what else is out there. I really think the factory HSV would look great with a machine finish

Strick, mate feel free to post up some other wheels if you like. I love Simmons wheels. had a set on my old VL Turbo many moons ago now. 17" fully polished and they looked sensational. I jut haven't seen a lot of wheels that take my fancy these days.

Yeah I really don't know how you would go with that hey.

RCBVFGTS
11-11-2013, 03:52 PM
I'm thinking I'd have better odds of winning the lotto twice in one lifetime

Cbegnell
11-11-2013, 05:07 PM
I'm thinking I'd have better odds of winning the lotto twice in one lifetime

There not bad odds, my Nan has done that lol

Nitrate
11-11-2013, 05:18 PM
Ric, wait to you get it, I see yours has been completed, I'm thinking you may be happy with the wheels after seeing em in the flesh. Cheers Ben

moray066
11-11-2013, 05:19 PM
Ok guys give me your honest opinions

I really like the machine finished wheel appearance, black just doesn't do much for me

I really like some of the wheels that Ron has out at present and I'm thinking of these in the machine finish

http://www.harrop.com.au/wheels_detail.php?prod=HF-CA3P

OR

http://www.harrop.com.au/wheels_detail.php?prod=HF-CF3C-CON

CF3C for me, I prefer the sharper edges



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RCBVFGTS
11-11-2013, 05:28 PM
Ric, wait to you get it, I see yours has been completed, I'm thinking you may be happy with the wheels after seeing em in the flesh. Cheers Ben


Will do mate.

Just another quick question I'm hoping someone out there maybe able to help me with. If I was to purchase a brand new set of the OEM wheels, would anyone happen to know if they could be successfully machine polished to give that machine silver finish?

Nitrate
11-11-2013, 07:59 PM
Will do mate.

Just another quick question I'm hoping someone out there maybe able to help me with. If I was to purchase a brand new set of the OEM wheels, would anyone happen to know if they could be successfully machine polished to give that machine silver finish?
I don't but check this out http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iIdc2YhkG5o&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DiIdc2YhkG5o

jkhsv
12-11-2013, 08:32 AM
Some idea of mods for your supercharged LSA........

How tuff does this sound....that idle mmmmmmm


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=oaJ3w_fAdoI

RCBVFGTS
12-11-2013, 09:54 AM
That sounded like a V8 Supercar at full throttle :D:D:D

Nitrate
12-11-2013, 05:55 PM
I have seen that one John, I didn't mind watching it again though. I will have what I am doing posted next week, if not when I return from the US at the end of this month. And for those who are about to ask, NO you can't have the GTS whilst I am away.....:)

whiteman69
12-11-2013, 09:53 PM
some idea of mods for your supercharged lsa........

How tuff does this sound....that idle mmmmmmm


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=oaj3w_fadoi

wow!!!!!!

RCBVFGTS
13-11-2013, 02:51 PM
Ok gents :)

I've bounced around a few emails to Andrew at HSV in regards to different finishes on the VF GTS wheels

If you would like HSV to offer a specific finish as an "option" please post up in this topic what finish you would like i.e. Machine finished, shadow chrome, chrome etc.

That way Andrew can keep and eye on it and forward the information to the "powers to be"

I'm going first up and will say "Machine finish" and "polished" as too "chrome"

jkhsv
13-11-2013, 02:58 PM
Maybe start a specific thread on it so it doesn't get lost amongst other comments in this thread...

kristofferjon
13-11-2013, 03:53 PM
Definitely the latter, CF3C.

RCBVFGTS
13-11-2013, 05:07 PM
Maybe start a specific thread on it so it doesn't get lost amongst other comments in this thread...


Hi John, which area would you suggest I post a topic on the wheels? In Snipers Hideout or general discussion?

jkhsv
13-11-2013, 06:46 PM
I would think hsv general discussion Ric

Nitrate
13-11-2013, 07:03 PM
Ok gents :)

I've bounced around a few emails to Andrew at HSV in regards to different finishes on the VF GTS wheels

If you would like HSV to offer a specific finish as an "option" please post up in this topic what finish you would like i.e. Machine finished, shadow chrome, chrome etc.

That way Andrew can keep and eye on it and forward the information to the "powers to be"

I'm going first up and will say "Machine finish" and "polished" as too "chrome"
That's great Ric, everyone has there own style I guess, I'm sticking with the standard rims, I think they are sh/t hot.....

jkhsv
14-11-2013, 04:26 PM
TBH I reckon the GTS rims look the best....the SV rims will be soo common as the R8 SV owners have them too..

Each to their own I guess...

Nitrate
15-11-2013, 08:36 PM
For those of you who agreed that the GTS Auto should have had paddles some good news. They are pre wired for them, so if we see a series II come along with paddles it maybe be a quick swap of the steering wheel on the series I :)

R8SVton
17-11-2013, 04:12 PM
Hi everyone,
I was just wondering if anyone has started modifying their GEN F with aftermarket parts such has OTR's and full EXHAUST's.
The reason why I'm asking is that I just installed a VCM MAF OTR on my GEN-F R8 SV. There is a rubber strip right across the bonnet, do I cut / remove it cause it looks like its sealing the top half of the OTR when bonnet is closed. Any feedback would be great.

Andrew_02
17-11-2013, 04:38 PM
They are usualy cut just enough where the intake is. You can cut the lining and insert a hood plate.
Cheers.
Welcome to the forum. Great car when you have time post some info and a pic or two of your ride.

R8SVton
17-11-2013, 04:58 PM
Thanx for the welcome and feedback.

No pics at this time.

The car is:
HSV Gen-F
R8 SV Enhanced
Manual
VCM OTR (maf)
Color: NITRATE

P.S
More mods very soon

HSV-R8-120
17-11-2013, 08:13 PM
Welcome R8SV,

I'm fairly new to the forum too but a great place to chat about all things HSV.

Nice car mate, I recently got a White Gen-F R8 (non SV) but with the SV rims, love the car however looking for some more induction sound and was actually looking at the VCM OTR.

My HSV contact told me the SV is mechanically and tuned the same as the non SV however has a different air intake (Bi model) to hived the extra go go. Now that you have swapped to the VCM, do you notice any power difference? How about the induction noise? I would imagine that if I got the OTR I could expect the same results?

Also, not sure if your going for more power or just a nice note with the exhaust but if your just after a note, try the below out first. I've done it in my car and it's sounds like a V8!all the time now, not just at idle.


Please see the below 2 web links. The images are pretty self explanatory.

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2i1g...5#.UnavllPTQtU

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=6ql2bt&s=5#.UnavQFPTQtU


Steps:

1) Remove the engine cover by pulling it gently upwards. It should un clip fairly easily. You do not need to remove the cover to get to the sensor however it will make it easier.

2) Reach your hand around the back of my motor and feel for the sensor. It is only around 100mm lower than the top of the motor and right in in the middle on the engine bay.

3) Once the valve is located, pull the tubes off either side. There are no clips so the tubes should come straight off with a but of a pull.

4) Turn the valve around 180 degrees and plug the tubes back in making sure they are on nice and tight.

5) Start the car to make sure exhaust flaps are always open. This can be easily checked by putting the driver mode dial onto touring mode, the exhaust should not get quieter.

6) Put the engine cover back on and go for a drive. Enjoy the noise!!

Let me know if you have any questions.

Thanks.

R8SVton
17-11-2013, 10:07 PM
Welcome R8SV,

I'm fairly new to the forum too but a great place to chat about all things HSV.

Nice car mate, I recently got a White Gen-F R8 (non SV) but with the SV rims, love the car however looking for some more induction sound and was actually looking at the VCM OTR.

My HSV contact told me the SV is mechanically and tuned the same as the non SV however has a different air intake (Bi model) to hived the extra go go. Now that you have swapped to the VCM, do you notice any power difference? How about the induction noise? I would imagine that if I got the OTR I could expect the same results?

Also, not sure if your going for more power or just a nice note with the exhaust but if your just after a note, try the below out first. I've done it in my car and it's sounds like a V8!all the time now, not just at idle.


Please see the below 2 web links. The images are pretty self explanatory.

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2i1g...5#.UnavllPTQtU

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=6ql2bt&s=5#.UnavQFPTQtU


Steps:

1) Remove the engine cover by pulling it gently upwards. It should un clip fairly easily. You do not need to remove the cover to get to the sensor however it will make it easier.

2) Reach your hand around the back of my motor and feel for the sensor. It is only around 100mm lower than the top of the motor and right in in the middle on the engine bay.

3) Once the valve is located, pull the tubes off either side. There are no clips so the tubes should come straight off with a but of a pull.

4) Turn the valve around 180 degrees and plug the tubes back in making sure they are on nice and tight.

5) Start the car to make sure exhaust flaps are always open. This can be easily checked by putting the driver mode dial onto touring mode, the exhaust should not get quieter.

6) Put the engine cover back on and go for a drive. Enjoy the noise!!

Let me know if you have any questions.

Thanks.

Hi HSV-R8-120,
I have found the induction noise heaps better and more of a growl as well.
As for power difference, I did find it a bit more responsive plus I also disabled TQ Management and the response is even more sharper as I have HPTuners and street tune cars.

HSV-R8-120
17-11-2013, 10:27 PM
Thx R8SV,

So you think it's a worthwhile mod for a bit more response and noise even though I don't have a HPtuner?

R8SVton
18-11-2013, 08:29 AM
I think its a good investment, they say it gains around 30kw with the OTR on its own and no tune but I think its about 20kw but then again every car will respond a bit different to others.

HSV-R8-120
18-11-2013, 09:16 PM
R8SV/All,

I spoke with a tune house today, they suggested that with the MAF VCM OTR installed, without a custom tune, my engine light will come on..... Did you or anyone have this issue?

I'm keen on getting the intake but I don't want to need to get a tune......

Any advice/feedback would be great.

Thanks

AD07
19-11-2013, 07:20 AM
R8SV/All,

I spoke with a tune house today, they suggested that with the MAF VCM OTR installed, without a custom tune, my engine light will come on..... Did you or anyone have this issue?

I'm keen on getting the intake but I don't want to need to get a tune......

Any advice/feedback would be great.

Thanks

So you just bought a Brand New HSV , and are going to skimp on a tune...????
Do it once and do it right, get the OTR and tune done at the SAME time.

VIP-427
19-11-2013, 08:10 AM
R8SV/All,

I spoke with a tune house today, they suggested that with the MAF VCM OTR installed, without a custom tune, my engine light will come on..... Did you or anyone have this issue?

I'm keen on getting the intake but I don't want to need to get a tune......

Any advice/feedback would be great.

Thanks

Are you planning on installing the OTR yourself? Is that why you don't want to get it tuned? A quality tune is around $1000....... chicken feed really after your've just dropped 80k on a car.

Andrew_02
19-11-2013, 01:34 PM
So you just bought a Brand New HSV , and are going to skimp on a tune...????
Do it once and do it right, get the OTR and tune done at the SAME time.

I have heard its because of more air and colder what crap. Ensure you use the sensors it should be fine the car will run fine in -10 to 50 degrees. Heavy rain to desert dry so why would the intake cause a light to go on.
Cheers

R8SVton
19-11-2013, 03:41 PM
I've had no issues as yet since all I have done with the tune at this stage is only disabled TQ management. What I have found is that it is running a bit lean at low RPMS (1500-3000) and a bit rich at (3000-4000) and all this at 50% Throttle another words just cruising.
R8SV/All,

I spoke with a tune house today, they suggested that with the MAF VCM OTR installed, without a custom tune, my engine light will come on..... Did you or anyone have this issue?

I'm keen on getting the intake but I don't want to need to get a tune......

Any advice/feedback would be great.

Thanks

R8SVton
19-11-2013, 03:43 PM
They just want your hard earn cash :D:D

HSV-R8-120
19-11-2013, 03:55 PM
Hi All,

Appreciate all the feed back.

The main reason for wanting the OTR Air intake is for the induction noise. I am more than satisfied (at this point in time) with the current power level and whilst I understand a tune is only $1000, it is still is a lot more than the $500 - $800 for the intake.

Andrew_02, I spoke with another tune house today for a 2nd opinion which ended up being very similar to yours. They said there would be absolutely no issue at all with putting on an MAF OTR CAI without a tune however they were honest and said to only expect 10rwkw increase in lieu of closer to 30rwkw with a tune. They actually suggested the SS inductions growler kit as its another option at me as its cheaper and will produce similar power/noise gains without tune.

What you guys think, OTRCAI or growler style kit?

HSV-R8-120
19-11-2013, 03:56 PM
R8SV, Haha that is exactly what the 2nd opinion tune house said today....

Andrew_02
19-11-2013, 04:09 PM
Yes tune will give more power than the otr. If your in a dusty environment id use a growler. The otr is a bit of a pain to clean and seal.

HSV-R8-120
19-11-2013, 04:13 PM
Thanks Andrew,

You think the intake noise will still sound good?

Brett240
19-11-2013, 05:47 PM
If you hav a Gen-F SV or up i would wait until someoene has varified that on OTR outperforms the new bi-modal setup first before outlaying cash on one.

remember the bi-modal it there to provide the best of both worlds, restricted intake/ higher airspeed at low RPM for more torque and the second mode with increased cross section for higher volume intake at high RPM.

an OTR 'may' show a small increase ( i havent seen it tested yet over the bi-modal, has anyone? ) but you could be sacrificing a little low to mid range torque.

R8SVton
19-11-2013, 06:12 PM
The OTR does outperform the Bi-Modal, all the Bi-Modal does is open a flap on the secondary hole to let more air in. Its just like the old LS1 with the 2 hole mod in the air box.

R8SVton
19-11-2013, 06:22 PM
Hi All,

Appreciate all the feed back.

The main reason for wanting the OTR Air intake is for the induction noise. I am more than satisfied (at this point in time) with the current power level and whilst I understand a tune is only $1000, it is still is a lot more than the $500 - $800 for the intake.

Andrew_02, I spoke with another tune house today for a 2nd opinion which ended up being very similar to yours. They said there would be absolutely no issue at all with putting on an MAF OTR CAI without a tune however they were honest and said to only expect 10rwkw increase in lieu of closer to 30rwkw with a tune. They actually suggested the SS inductions growler kit as its another option at me as its cheaper and will produce similar power/noise gains without tune.

What you guys think, OTRCAI or growler style kit?

To be honest, Ill keep away from SS Induction (SS Reduction) and get the VCM OTR :D

Andrew_02
19-11-2013, 08:00 PM
I dont know what the vf sounds like the otr is great in sound. Find a tuner anyway if u can from members on this forum and just get the install with in fill panels. Cheers

adr8
19-11-2013, 11:15 PM
The OTR does outperform the Bi-Modal, all the Bi-Modal does is open a flap on the secondary hole to let more air in. Its just like the old LS1 with the 2 hole mod in the air box.

The following pics are of a ZL1 airbox it also has second snorkle, is it the same as the SV airbox or did HSV implement a vacuum operated flap. If the HSV bi-modal airbox is different to the ZL1 airbox could you post a pic if you can. Cheers :)

http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w491/advr8/a1/IMG_0773.jpg

http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w491/advr8/a1/IMG_0775.jpg

http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w491/advr8/a1/IMG_0769.jpg

Brett240
20-11-2013, 02:08 PM
The OTR does outperform the Bi-Modal, all the Bi-Modal does is open a flap on the secondary hole to let more air in. Its just like the old LS1 with the 2 hole mod in the air box.

is there any evidence of that? I have not seen any back to back tests of the bi-modal versus an OTR.

so there is the question over peak power, but also what about low-mid range torque?

R8SVton
20-11-2013, 06:02 PM
is there any evidence of that? I have not seen any back to back tests of the bi-modal versus an OTR.

so there is the question over peak power, but also what about low-mid range torque?

Brett240,
When I get the time Ill put the Bi-Modal intake back in with stock tune and do a back to back dyno run.

cdaveyb
20-11-2013, 06:19 PM
Would be very interested to see those results.

Brett240
20-11-2013, 10:28 PM
Definitely would be very interested

R8SVton
21-11-2013, 12:39 PM
adr8/All
Here is what a Gen-F HSV SV Bi-Modal intake looks like.
See what you all think.

http://i1349.photobucket.com/albums/p752/R8SVton/DSCN0618_zps15d8ce2d.jpg
http://i1349.photobucket.com/albums/p752/R8SVton/DSCN0619_zps2dc2906f.jpg
http://i1349.photobucket.com/albums/p752/R8SVton/DSCN0620_zps038b595e.jpg
http://i1349.photobucket.com/albums/p752/R8SVton/DSCN0621_zpsf64f4729.jpg
http://i1349.photobucket.com/albums/p752/R8SVton/DSCN0622_zpse3ccf8f6.jpg
http://i1349.photobucket.com/albums/p752/R8SVton/DSCN0623_zps66730894.jpg

Nath
21-11-2013, 01:25 PM
Is the second flap operated under vacuum and pulls air outside of running through the filter aliment?

adr8
21-11-2013, 03:29 PM
adr8/All
Here is what a Gen-F HSV SV Bi-Modal intake looks like.
See what you all think.

http://i1349.photobucket.com/albums/p752/R8SVton/DSCN0618_zps15d8ce2d.jpg
http://i1349.photobucket.com/albums/p752/R8SVton/DSCN0619_zps2dc2906f.jpg
http://i1349.photobucket.com/albums/p752/R8SVton/DSCN0620_zps038b595e.jpg
http://i1349.photobucket.com/albums/p752/R8SVton/DSCN0621_zpsf64f4729.jpg
http://i1349.photobucket.com/albums/p752/R8SVton/DSCN0622_zpse3ccf8f6.jpg
http://i1349.photobucket.com/albums/p752/R8SVton/DSCN0623_zps66730894.jpg

Thanks for posting the pics, same question as Nath is it vacuum operated?

R8SVton
21-11-2013, 03:54 PM
Its electronic operated, just like a flyby wire throttle body.

adr8
21-11-2013, 04:13 PM
Its electronic operated, just like a flyby wire throttle body.

Excuse my ignorance, but does that mean it can't be retrofitted to an E3?

R8SVton
21-11-2013, 04:37 PM
Excuse my ignorance, but does that mean it can't be retrofitted to an E3?

Don't know, unless their is wiring to accommodate it, I cant see why not but if no wiring well its a different story. Plus what I did notice when I took it out, is the front spoiler had a cut out on the under tray like a scoop directing the air straight to the butterfly if you under stand what I mean.

Nath
21-11-2013, 06:01 PM
So does that mean this second inlet sucks air into intake that does not travel through the filter first?

R8SVton
21-11-2013, 06:08 PM
So does that mean this second inlet sucks air into intake that does not travel through the filter first?

It sucks air just the same as the main inlet of the intake and then through the filter. The second inlet is pretty much 90 Degrees to the first inlet and pretty much next to it too.

R8SVton
21-11-2013, 06:12 PM
The main inlet (first) sucks air from around the headlight and the second inlet (butterfly) sucks air from underneath the bumper.

cdaveyb
21-11-2013, 06:19 PM
What I don't understand is that both inlets are on the same induction pipe before entry into the airbox. How can opening a secondary inlet increase the air volume into the induction pipe when air is already filing the inlet capacity. The diameter of the pipe is no larger? Now if there were 2 induction pipes into the air box and the second one opens with a valve, that I could understand.

Nath
21-11-2013, 06:37 PM
It sucks air just the same as the main inlet of the intake and then through the filter. The second inlet is pretty much 90 Degrees to the first inlet and pretty much next to it too.

Thanks, I understand now

adr8
21-11-2013, 10:41 PM
Don't know, unless their is wiring to accommodate it, I cant see why not but if no wiring well its a different story. Plus what I did notice when I took it out, is the front spoiler had a cut out on the under tray like a scoop directing the air straight to the butterfly if you under stand what I mean.

Thanks for the info R8SVton much appreciated :). So to retrofit it to a VE for someone who isn't mechanically minded could be difficult, as the additional wiring required would be tricky :(.

AD07
22-11-2013, 07:10 AM
Thanks for the info R8SVton much appreciated :). So to retrofit it to a VE for someone who isn't mechanically minded could be difficult, as the additional wiring required would be tricky :(.

Wouldnt bother, and it wouldnt be worth the effort.....
Get an OTR & be done with it.

FollowTheSapper
22-11-2013, 03:46 PM
What I don't understand is that both inlets are on the same induction pipe before entry into the airbox. How can opening a secondary inlet increase the air volume into the induction pipe when air is already filing the inlet capacity. The diameter of the pipe is no larger? Now if there were 2 induction pipes into the air box and the second one opens with a valve, that I could understand.

As the engine revs higher it requires more air. So the second opening allows more air to enter with less strain on the engine. This is why it is Bimodal and not open all the time.

R8SVton
22-11-2013, 04:29 PM
That's why I said earlier in this thread that an OTR would outperform the BI-MODAL intake cause I don't really see the advantage. Sucking air from behind the headlight and from my knowledge is so restrictive and by have the Bi-Modal and sucking air from under the bumper just makes up for the lack of air getting in from behind the headlight. Again that's what I think and if you all disagree will then just shoot me.:D

FollowTheSapper
22-11-2013, 06:08 PM
That's why I said earlier in this thread that an OTR would outperform the BI-MODAL intake cause I don't really see the advantage. Sucking air from behind the headlight and from my knowledge is so restrictive and by have the Bi-Modal and sucking air from under the bumper just makes up for the lack of air getting in from behind the headlight. Again that's what I think and if you all disagree will then just shoot me.:D

This is true! But if someone wants to keep a stock looking air box it is an alternative to an OTR CAI setup.

richo7502000
24-11-2013, 12:11 AM
That's why I said earlier in this thread that an OTR would outperform the BI-MODAL intake cause I don't really see the advantage. Sucking air from behind the headlight and from my knowledge is so restrictive and by have the Bi-Modal and sucking air from under the bumper just makes up for the lack of air getting in from behind the headlight. Again that's what I think and if you all disagree will then just shoot me.:D

I think the only advantage with a bimodal would be air velocities, an OTR is always getting air flow at a constant rate so when you dont need as much air the air is moving slowly, with a bi modal the air will move quite quickly when only the headlight pipe is being used then gulp in more air once the valve opens when it needs a lot of high velocity air to the intake. This "MAY" make the bimodal slightly more efficient at lower and mid revs?? Again Dyno runs will back that up.

Srrzs
26-11-2013, 12:48 PM
Guys excuse my ignorance as well I have an e3 325kw.. I always envied the guys with 340kw because of modified induction..

Just curious though in general the throttle body determines in how much air the engine requires.. So yes essentially having a second vent to the air box so it can access more air if need be is great.

My question is in the second inlet for the bi modal induction if there isn't I thing like electronic inlet fan helping air pressure flow faster and stronger and it's just merely a extra vent that opens..

If we just fabricated the same setup with electronic aids or vacuum flaps, it's just plain and simple extra air inlet into the box from underneath the car wouldn't that sufficient enough ? To be as close as the real deal ?


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R8SVton
26-11-2013, 08:50 PM
Guys excuse my ignorance as well I have an e3 325kw.. I always envied the guys with 340kw because of modified induction..

Just curious though in general the throttle body determines in how much air the engine requires.. So yes essentially having a second vent to the air box so it can access more air if need be is great.

My question is in the second inlet for the bi modal induction if there isn't I thing like electronic inlet fan helping air pressure flow faster and stronger and it's just merely a extra vent that opens..

If we just fabricated the same setup with electronic aids or vacuum flaps, it's just plain and simple extra air inlet into the box from underneath the car wouldn't that sufficient enough ? To be as close as the real deal ?


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No electronic inlet fan helping airflow rush faster or stronger buddy :cry:

Andrew_02
26-11-2013, 10:05 PM
No electronic inlet fan helping airflow rush faster or stronger buddy :cry:


After a tune and otrcai ve and vf 317 to 340 are all the same.then exhaust goes higher.

ROCKETGTS
27-11-2013, 10:36 AM
Hi Guys

I have had my gts for about 2 weeks now and since i picked it up I have noticed a bit of diff noise when you back off the accelerator when you approach a intersection. Is this normal or do I have a problem.

R8SVton
27-11-2013, 03:33 PM
Hi Guys

I have had my gts for about 2 weeks now and since i picked it up I have noticed a bit of diff noise when you back off the accelerator when you approach a intersection. Is this normal or do I have a problem.

Congrats on your GTS,
What type of noise are we talking about?
When did it start making that noise?

HSV-R8-120
01-12-2013, 09:06 AM
Hi guys,

Ok, I have decided to go for an OTR and tune for my VFR8 however not sure where to go.

Any recommendations? I live in Melbourne.

Is it realistic to expect a 30-40kw rear wheel gain?

Thanks,

R8SVton
01-12-2013, 02:17 PM
Hi guys,

Ok, I have decided to go for an OTR and tune for my VFR8 however not sure where to go.

Any recommendations? I live in Melbourne.

Is it realistic to expect a 30-40kw rear wheel gain?

Thanks,

You need to see the man himself,
Mario and the boys from VCM PERFORMANCE/AUTOTECHNIQUE in Knoxfield.
Cheers

Nitrate
07-01-2014, 11:42 AM
Hey Graeme, I wanted to let you know about what I ended up choosing in relation to HID's. We had discussed this earlier on....

As fate would have it, I took my youngest boy to the Motor Bike Show that was on in Sydney late last year. I made sure I parked the GTS in a safe spot and when I was getting out of the car a gentleman pulled up in a Mercedes station wagon and said do you mind if I park up close to you. He wanted also to make sure his car was not damaged by other opening doors :) Anyway to cut a long story short, his name was Peter and is the owner of XenonOz. I got chatting to him and told him of what I was trying to achieve and low and behold he had exactly what I was looking for. He has been in the business for many years and has a long history with this type of engineering. Here is the site for your info as well as a pic of what I purchased, only lows at this stage but will do highs later on. I hope you find the site and products of some interest, if you want give Peter a call, he is a great guy and very helpful. Site is: http://www.xenonoz.com/ will also let you know how I go with the install :) Hope all is going well with you...

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/holmesben/DSC_0478_zpscb728c09.jpg

jkhsv
07-01-2014, 12:00 PM
Hi guys,

Ok, I have decided to go for an OTR and tune for my VFR8 however not sure where to go.

Any recommendations? I live in Melbourne.

Is it realistic to expect a 30-40kw rear wheel gain?

Thanks,

Not sure which part of Melbourne you are but these cover most of the suburbs......

Autotechnique / VCM

APS

NJCLSX

Chevs

Good luck....

Brett240
07-01-2014, 12:42 PM
Hey Graeme, I wanted to let you know about what I ended up choosing in relation to HID's. We had discussed this earlier on....

As fate would have it, I took my youngest boy to the Motor Bike Show that was on in Sydney late last year. I made sure I parked the GTS in a safe spot and when I was getting out of the car a gentleman pulled up in a Mercedes station wagon and said do you mind if I park up close to you. He wanted also to make sure his car was not damaged by other opening doors :) Anyway to cut a long story short, his name was Peter and is the owner of XenonOz. I got chatting to him and told him of what I was trying to achieve and low and behold he had exactly what I was looking for. He has been in the business for many years and has a long history with this type of engineering. Here is the site for your info as well as a pic of what I purchased, only lows at this stage but will do highs later on. I hope you find the site and products of some interest, if you want give Peter a call, he is a great guy and very helpful. Site is: http://www.xenonoz.com/ will also let you know how I go with the install :) Hope all is going well with you...

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/holmesben/DSC_0478_zpscb728c09.jpg

whats the damage on a setup like that? there arent any prices on the website.

Toxo492
07-01-2014, 02:54 PM
Hi Ben,
I will be watching your progress with these lights. It is one area that the GTS is behind my Subaru GT it has great lights. I hope you do not loose too much flesh installing them. Thanks for the link.
Bob

Nitrate
07-01-2014, 04:14 PM
whats the damage on a setup like that? there arent any prices on the website.
Hello Brett before I go into what I paid for this kit I should let you all know why I chose the product.

Firstly, I paid over 100k for my GTS, its a big investment, so I am not going to throw any nasty aftermarket bits into it.

Secondly I have done several months of research and initially (before I bumped into Frank, sorry I named him Peter in my original post) I was heading down the path of choosing a 100% Philips kit (ballasts and globes).

Be careful with the internet and those who offer Philips kits as there are a lot out there that are not genuine or say they are and use Hylux ballasts. Not saying that Hylux is no good but they are not Philips as they state.

Now to XenonOz, they use Philips genuine ballasts and assemble their own globes here in Australia with German componentry. Their higher end kits are supplied to top rally teams and Le Mans teams and both ballasts and globes are manufactured in several locations around the world. XenonOz test all there products for a minimum of 18 months before releasing them. They offer a two (2) year warranty, a no question asked 30 day money back return, support and is a locally assembled globe by someone who has been in the game for over 20 years.

They use UV glass for their globes that operate at a third of the temperature of Halogen and some other HID's. So be careful also, the last thing you want is forking out big bucks for new assemblies in twelve (12) months time. Have you seen some cars driving around with brownish headlights that look like they have been hit with a wire brush? Would hate to think how much VF replacements are.

So to the price, these low beam one's were around the $500.00 mark. But you can no doubt see what you are getting against the cheaper ones out there. Engineering know how, warranty, support, tried and tested etc...

I just want to end by saying this is just my opinion on the research that I have done. My choice on choosing XenonOz is just that, my choice. I am not endorsing the product at all just giving you all the information that I have found. There is a heap of kits out there and I am not saying at all that they all fall into the category of not so good. I just think I found the best.

If anyone is interested in the product they should talk with Frank at XenonOz direct and form their own opinion.

Thanks everyone, I hope this becomes of some use to you all.... :)

Nitrate
07-01-2014, 04:25 PM
Hi Ben,
I will be watching your progress with these lights. It is one area that the GTS is behind my Subaru GT it has great lights. I hope you do not loose too much flesh installing them. Thanks for the link.
Bob
Hello Bob, will do some before and after shots if I can and post them up....

SV300
07-01-2014, 05:37 PM
I actually think the VF HSV lights are pretty good stock with 65W low beams (checked). They compare well to my other cars. Maybe the Subaru's are leagues ahead again.

I was going to do the lights but after driving at night for me there OK.




Hi Ben,
I will be watching your progress with these lights. It is one area that the GTS is behind my Subaru GT it has great lights. I hope you do not loose too much flesh installing them. Thanks for the link.
Bob

Brett240
07-01-2014, 05:39 PM
cheers Nitrate,

any chance of a few install snaps and a quick write-up?

bosscocky
08-01-2014, 08:32 AM
So to the price, these low beam one's were around the $500.00 mark. But you can no doubt see what you are getting against the cheaper ones out there. Engineering know how, warranty, support, tried and tested etc...


$500 bucks !!!!!....I can get a set of spotties from Supercheap for $50......who goes out at night anyway ? at my age i'm asleep by 8.30 pm.:D

Willie
08-01-2014, 10:30 AM
:p
$500 bucks !!!!!....I can get a set of spotties from Supercheap for $50......who goes out at night anyway ? at my age i'm asleep by 8.30 pm.:D

Oh you poor old bugger!!!!!!!! You need to tear yourself away from your telly more often mate.:p

johnfhall
08-01-2014, 12:30 PM
$500 bucks !!!!!....I can get a set of spotties from Supercheap for $50......

Does anyone care/notice that they are not street legal? Are you likely to be pinged for having them? I'm in Victoria, and I see all sorts of shit blue headlights. Mostly ricers...

Nitrate
08-01-2014, 04:11 PM
Does anyone care/notice that they are not street legal? Are you likely to be pinged for having them? I'm in Victoria, and I see all sorts of shit blue headlights. Mostly ricers...
Hello John, thanks for bringing this up, part of me reviewing all that is available in the market was to avoid just that. I didn't want the blue looking ricer type one's. My choice being 35w 4200K that they were a little whiter than the standard Halogen's and that they give me the daylight effect when driving at night, that was all. I believe I found what I was looking for with XenonOz. Definitely not my intention to be perceived as a boy racer. :)

RCBVFGTS
08-01-2014, 04:44 PM
Hello John, thanks for bringing this up, part of me reviewing all that is available in the market was to avoid just that. I didn't want the blue looking ricer type one's. My choice being 35w 4200K that they were a little whiter than the standard Halogen's and that they give me the daylight effect when driving at night, that was all. I believe I found what I was looking for with XenonOz. Definitely not my intention to be perceived as a boy racer. :)


Ben, there is a gent near Sydney and his name is Mick. He is well known on the 4wd forums for his outstanding ability to turn headlights and driving lights into HID. I use him myself and his products are sensational. Even NSW Police use him for their work and personal cars he is that good.

I purchased the wife this time last year a 2013 MN GLX-R Triton (she had to have it). We sold it after 7500km because I kept hitting my knees on the dash and because she had to have auto it was gutless as, the worst car I've ever owned! The headlights were so appalling I had no choice but to upgrade them because it was like holding two candles out the window. It was dangerous to drive at night and my wife is as blind as a bat!

Mick is highly respected within the 4wd fraternity for his HID upgrades to both headlights and driving lights. I spoke to Mick and he custom makes his own projectors and ballasts for his light upgrades. He makes driving lights that shine 2.2km :eek:
I sent the Triton headlights to him and one week later I had them back. Wow, was I impressed :cool:!
After I aimed these up correctly it was literally like driving of a day. I never got flashed by anyone for them being in peoples eyes either. They really were sensational.

Then one night sure enough I was asked to have my headlights inspected by a NSW RMS inspector. Arrogant, rude pig of a man to say the least. Spoke to me straight off like I was something undesirable he'd stepped in before I even got to say a single word. I let him finish his rant and rave about how dangerous it is to have non ADR complied HID's in a vehicle and why he shouldn't defect my vehicle, even though the Police commented to me how great they were and that there was no throw back and not in peoples eyes.
I told this RMS Inspector "You can defect my vehicle if you like, but you're in for one almighty court battle because the factory lights were so deplorable they were dangerous to other road users especially in the country as we are and all I've done is improve safety to my family and other road users".
RMS Inspector, smiled looked closely at my lights and said "I have to agree with you, you've had these done professionally and it shows in both the headlight and the light output unlike those dodgy kits you see on eBay which is exactly what we are cracking down on".

I was then sent on my merry way :D

I run Mick's HID upgraded Narva 225 driving lights too on my other work vehicles and it's like driving in daylight. I can't recommend this guy enough.

Here are his details;-

Micks HID Projector Retrofits
Phone 0403596123


Because Ben our GTS headlights already have the projectors in them it's an easy job for him to replace the projectors and add the HID's.

Other option Ben is the Chevy SS now sold in North America has HID headlights, would be great to get the part numbers and see if we need to replace the entire headlight or if it's a simple "plug and play" kit that goes into them for the USA

RCBVFGTS
08-01-2014, 04:48 PM
Oh yeah

Anyone for a front brake upgrade to their VF GTS :D

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Brembo-Front-GT-BBK-Big-Brake-6piston-GT-R-405x32-Slot-Disc-Camaro-SS-ZL1-10-14/271331489791?_trksid=p2050601.m2451&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3 D1%26asc%3D266%26meid%3D3964931937145253279%26pid% 3D100103%26prg%3D1141%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D27 1331489791%26clkid%3D3964933417513584722&_qi=RTM1582271

Nitrate
08-01-2014, 06:34 PM
Thanks Ric, I will give Mick a call before I start the install and get his opinion.

I will be in the States early this year, I plan on checking out a few items from the Chevy SS, including Steering Wheel with Paddles. I will add the headlight housing (HID set up) to the list also, curious to know if they have self levelling and washer installation!

Think I will pass on the 10K brake upgrade though :) thanks anyways...

Mikhail
08-01-2014, 07:59 PM
Does anyone care/notice that they are not street legal? Are you likely to be pinged for having them? I'm in Victoria, and I see all sorts of shit blue headlights. Mostly ricers...

John, looking at your avatar I can't see why you would be concerned about blue lights...

I drove my sons Cruze Sunday night and it has the worst factory headlights I have used for a long time. Probably look at fitting an LED light bar under the grill.

johnfhall
08-01-2014, 09:15 PM
John, looking at your avatar I can't see why you would be concerned about blue lights...

I drove my sons Cruze Sunday night and it has the worst factory headlights I have used for a long time. Probably look at fitting an LED light bar under the grill.

Good one!!! You made me laugh. :)

The Cruze look nice, but I guess the devils in the detail...

RCBVFGTS
08-01-2014, 09:16 PM
Thanks Ric, I will give Mick a call before I start the install and get his opinion.

I will be in the States early this year, I plan on checking out a few items from the Chevy SS, including Steering Wheel with Paddles. I will add the headlight housing (HID set up) to the list also, curious to know if they have self levelling and washer installation!

Think I will pass on the 10K brake upgrade though :) thanks anyways...


I've had a very good detailed look at the front of the Chevy SS and I can't see any washers for the headlights. If the price is right over there let me know and I will grab a set too. Only difference I can see from our headlights to theirs is the indicators in the headlights has an orange lens, and ours is clear with an orange bulb

In regards to the brakes, would 405mm even fit under our 20" wheels? What size are the V8 Supercar discs?

johnfhall
08-01-2014, 09:17 PM
Hello John, thanks for bringing this up, part of me reviewing all that is available in the market was to avoid just that. I didn't want the blue looking ricer type one's. My choice being 35w 4200K ... I believe I found what I was looking for with XenonOz. Definitely not my intention to be perceived as a boy racer. :)

Hi Ben,
Ah, yes. 4200k sounds good to us old blokes.

RCBVFGTS
12-01-2014, 10:27 AM
Thanks Ric, I will give Mick a call before I start the install and get his opinion.

I will be in the States early this year, I plan on checking out a few items from the Chevy SS, including Steering Wheel with Paddles. I will add the headlight housing (HID set up) to the list also, curious to know if they have self levelling and washer installation!

Think I will pass on the 10K brake upgrade though :) thanks anyways...


Hi mate

I've been doing some in depth research into the headlights used on the Chevy SS.

I can confirm the HID headlights on the Chevy SS have the ballasts built in and are also self-levelling so to any normal person even the authorities there is no way of telling these headlights are HID (no external ballasts or extra wiring)

The negative side is that to the "trained eye" you can tell they are HID because the Chevy SS uses an amber lens for the indicators in the sides of the headlight, unlike ours that are white and use an amber bulb. This would be an easy give away to authorities to look for.

What I'm going to do mate is get a set sent over and see if I can swap the internals from the Chevy SS ones into our headlights.

Also, should have the parts numbers for the headlights as too the steering wheel and paddle shifters shortly too :D
Soon as I do I will post them up.

Nitrate
12-01-2014, 12:21 PM
Hi mate

I've been doing some in depth research into the headlights used on the Chevy SS.

I can confirm the HID headlights on the Chevy SS have the ballasts built in and are also self-levelling so to any normal person even the authorities there is no way of telling these headlights are HID (no external ballasts or extra wiring)

The negative side is that to the "trained eye" you can tell they are HID because the Chevy SS uses an amber lens for the indicators in the sides of the headlight, unlike ours that are white and use an amber bulb. This would be an easy give away to authorities to look for.

What I'm going to do mate is get a set sent over and see if I can swap the internals from the Chevy SS ones into our headlights.

Also, should have the parts numbers for the headlights as too the steering wheel and paddle shifters shortly too :D
Soon as I do I will post them up.
Thanks Ric, I sent an email to my US office late last week asking them to get part numbers and pricing also.

Based on what you have found I am holding off on the install of my XenonOz set up. Not saying I wont proceed but I am thinking you are onto something better in term of ADR compliance....

If I get something back first I will let you know.

Thanks mate....

RCBVFGTS
12-01-2014, 01:19 PM
No worries :)

You know what would be good Ben, is to know if someone out there has had the Tech2 on a HSV and can see any differences in the automatic transmission settings and see if there is anything in there for the paddle shifters. I'd love to get the schematics of the steering wheel of the Chevy SS and compare it to ours and see what if anything is different.

Maybe a Tuner out there might be able to help us there??????

P.S. In regards to ADR compliance for the HID headlights, here HID headlights are to have washers. Now apparently some of the top marque European vehicles sold in Australia have HID headlights but I'm yet to see any with headlight washers
If someone has a photo/s or a link it would be great if you could post it up.

Nitrate
12-01-2014, 04:05 PM
No worries :)

You know what would be good Ben, is to know if someone out there has had the Tech2 on a HSV and can see any differences in the automatic transmission settings and see if there is anything in there for the paddle shifters. I'd love to get the schematics of the steering wheel of the Chevy SS and compare it to ours and see what if anything is different.

Maybe a Tuner out there might be able to help us there??????

P.S. In regards to ADR compliance for the HID headlights, here HID headlights are to have washers. Now apparently some of the top marque European vehicles sold in Australia have HID headlights but I'm yet to see any with headlight washers
If someone has a photo/s or a link it would be great if you could post it up.
I will have part numbers and pricing on Tuesday, I did read in some review that the wiring harness for paddles is already there. I think it was in Wheels Mag.

The misses has an X3 with HID's it has washers, with the headlights on when you clean the windscreen it also does a headlight clean automatically straight after. Same as my old X5M....

Toxo492
12-01-2014, 08:53 PM
Hi Ric,
My Subaru Liberty GT 2006 model has HID lights with washers. These are much better lights than the GTS. Thanks for the information as I am keen to change lights over as well.
Bob


No worries :)

You know what would be good Ben, is to know if someone out there has had the Tech2 on a HSV and can see any differences in the automatic transmission settings and see if there is anything in there for the paddle shifters. I'd love to get the schematics of the steering wheel of the Chevy SS and compare it to ours and see what if anything is different.

Maybe a Tuner out there might be able to help us there??????

P.S. In regards to ADR compliance for the HID headlights, here HID headlights are to have washers. Now apparently some of the top marque European vehicles sold in Australia have HID headlights but I'm yet to see any with headlight washers
If someone has a photo/s or a link it would be great if you could post it up.

dgp
13-01-2014, 05:24 AM
No worries :)

You know what would be good Ben, is to know if someone out there has had the Tech2 on a HSV and can see any differences in the automatic transmission settings and see if there is anything in there for the paddle shifters. I'd love to get the schematics of the steering wheel of the Chevy SS and compare it to ours and see what if anything is different.

Maybe a Tuner out there might be able to help us there??????

P.S. In regards to ADR compliance for the HID headlights, here HID headlights are to have washers. Now apparently some of the top marque European vehicles sold in Australia have HID headlights but I'm yet to see any with headlight washers
If someone has a photo/s or a link it would be great if you could post it up.

The washer system is more often than not located behind a little panel that sits proud of the bumper in front and below the headlight. The washer mechanism is activated on a cycle when you wash your windscreen ( perhaps 1 in 50 washes - not sure of spec).
The VE series II Caprice has Xenon headlights, I had a friend activate the washers on his car so I could watch the washer stalk protrude from the bumper and spray water all over the lights.

RCBVFGTS
14-01-2014, 12:22 AM
Thanks Ben, Bob and dgp. In all honesty guys, did the washers really make a difference that you could tell???

My contact in the USA says the headlights are a one piece design. Although the ballast is listed separately through GM from the headlamp the GM parts guy said it was very unlikely that the ballast does not bolt up to the headlamps as there are connections on the diagram (I've a copy of it). He didn't have a diagram of the ballast, apparently the car is so new that some of their database is not fully updated yet.

The paddle shifters are now being researched too so hopefully we should have some answers soon :D
I'd love to see someone here with an auto GTS retro fit the paddle shifters so I'm getting all the info I can so hopefully someone might be brave to do it

Nitrate
14-01-2014, 08:11 AM
Complete Right Headlight Assembly - #92271624, $916.67
Complete Left Headlight Assembly - #92271623, $916.67
Steering Wheel - #92273516, $259.19

Just getting confirmation that the paddle mechanism is included in the wheel...

Nitrate
14-01-2014, 08:26 AM
Thanks Ben, Bob and dgp. In all honesty guys, did the washers really make a difference that you could tell???
Mate I could never notice any difference on my X5M, to me they are a waste, unless you have mud or snow on your lenses then what's the point! Its just another ADR enforcement, I discussed this with Andrew whilst at HSV, for Holden and or HSV to install HID's would have been a piece of cake. Its the cost of compliance that hinders these types of inclusions.......

Nitrate
14-01-2014, 09:37 AM
OK confirmed, wheel comes with Tap Shift Paddles!

RCBVFGTS
14-01-2014, 10:14 AM
Mate I could never notice any difference on my X5M, to me they are a waste, unless you have mud or snow on your lenses then what's the point! Its just another ADR enforcement, I discussed this with Andrew whilst at HSV, for Holden and or HSV to install HID's would have been a piece of cake. Its the cost of compliance that hinders these types of inclusions.......


Hi mate

I thought that would be the case, in actual fact I thought it would be similar to the wipers on the VB Commodore all those years ago.

At $916.67 each light it's making it a rather expensive exercise isn't it :(. But great you got the part numbers and prices :D:D. Were you lucky enough to get the schematics for the paddle shifters??
I wonder if we give that steering wheel part number to Chris if it will another case of "export only"?

Now I had a gent tell me yesterday that the wheels off my VF SSVR in the USA for his Chevy SS were $995 each :o from the dealership. Further checking around on GM Parts Direct the same wheels could be gotten for $1500 including shipping for all four. I wonder if we can find the same for the headlights?????

Nitrate
14-01-2014, 12:05 PM
Hi mate

I thought that would be the case, in actual fact I thought it would be similar to the wipers on the VB Commodore all those years ago.

At $916.67 each light it's making it a rather expensive exercise isn't it :(. But great you got the part numbers and prices :D:D. Were you lucky enough to get the schematics for the paddle shifters??
I wonder if we give that steering wheel part number to Chris if it will another case of "export only"?

Now I had a gent tell me yesterday that the wheels off my VF SSVR in the USA for his Chevy SS were $995 each :o from the dealership. Further checking around on GM Parts Direct the same wheels could be gotten for $1500 including shipping for all four. I wonder if we can find the same for the headlights?????
Yes based on that price I am going forward with the XenonOz install. I plan to get the adjustment for this by turning on the Halogen's and making a mark on the garage wall with tape, that way I can adjust the HID's to that. I will see how that goes, I know its a bit rough but can't think of any other way.

I will have my guys in the US try and get as much information as they can, I am unsure about the wheels mag article that quoted that all the wiring etc is already there. At least if we get the schematics we can check....

I wonder what the headlight assemblies retail for here, I would hate to think as everything is cheaper in the US. At a guess I reckon 1500 plus. Would be interesting to find out.

Anyway stand by, will try and get some more info on the steering wheel :)

Y.B.SHY
14-01-2014, 08:49 PM
I've got a copy of the schematics for both the Aus and US version and according to the Aus diagrams the pin in the BCM is marked as blank. Whitch doesn't always mean the wireing isn't there.

The TapShift works of a single wire (according to the schematics this wire is prescient in both the AUs and USA steering colums) using differences in resistance so should be a simple retrofit even if the BCM is missing the required pin.

I will confirm all this on the weekend when I have some time to pull my GTS apart ;-)

Nitrate, are you contacts in the states able to ship out some steering wheels if required as these part numbers arnt available in Holden's system?

In regards to the factory HiD headlights just remember that the projector lights are (non adjustable) directional so those looking at doing this should also consider retrofitting the HID components on the origional assembly.

RCBVFGTS
14-01-2014, 09:44 PM
Mate that's awesome! Even though I don't own an auto I'm really looking forward to seeing this conversion happen.

Nitrate
14-01-2014, 09:48 PM
I've got a copy of the schematics for both the Aus and US version and according to the Aus diagrams the pin in the BCM is marked as blank. Whitch doesn't always mean the wireing isn't there.

The TapShift works of a single wire (according to the schematics this wire is prescient in both the AUs and USA steering colums) using differences in resistance so should be a simple retrofit even if the BCM is missing the required pin.

I will confirm all this on the weekend when I have some time to pull my GTS apart ;-)

Nitrate, are you contacts in the states able to ship out some steering wheels if required as these part numbers arnt available in Holden's system?

In regards to the factory HiD headlights just remember that the projector lights are (non adjustable) directional so those looking at doing this should also consider retrofitting the HID components on the origional assembly.
That's some great news and yes I can get these shipped in no problems. My company has a console shipment every Friday from the US to Sydney, they arrive on Tuesdays. If you want one let me know, happy to help as you are with what you are doing.

I will get confirmation on availability over night....

Great stuff, thanks Y.B.SHY

RCBVFGTS
14-01-2014, 09:52 PM
Complete Right Headlight Assembly, $916.67
Complete Left Headlight Assembly - #92271623, $916.67
Steering Wheel - #92273516, $259.19

Just getting confirmation that the paddle mechanism is included in the wheel...


Ok mate after some research we can get those parts cheaper :D

The prices I can get are;-

Complete Right Headlight Assembly = $583.00
Complete Left Headlight Assembly = $583.00
Steering Wheel = $156.64

You can do this via GM Parts Direct here http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/catalog/frameset.cfm

Ben, can you tell me mate what the part number for each side headlights ballast is please as apparently they won't come with the ballast.

Nitrate
14-01-2014, 10:03 PM
Ok mate after some research we can get those parts cheaper :D

The prices I can get are;-

Complete Right Headlight Assembly = $583.00
Complete Left Headlight Assembly = $583.00
Steering Wheel = $156.64

You can do this via GM Parts Direct here http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/catalog/frameset.cfm

Ben, can you tell me mate what the part number for each side headlights ballast is please as apparently they won't come with the ballast.
OK have sent email should have something back in the morning. You mean they don't come with the headlight assembly right?

Thanks for the link, I will check out availability there also for the steering wheel :) good pricing..

RCBVFGTS
14-01-2014, 10:08 PM
Sorry mate I'm not 100% on that. The gent that's sending my brakes over did some checking for me at his GM dealership and they indicated they won't come with the ballasts and they need to be purchased separately. Can your contacts check this to confirm?

Nitrate
14-01-2014, 10:11 PM
Sorry mate I'm not 100% on that. The gent that's sending my brakes over did some checking for me at his GM dealership and they indicated they won't come with the ballasts and they need to be purchased separately. Can your contacts check this to confirm?
No worries Ric, I have sent an email requesting just that, will let you know tomorrow....

Nitrate
15-01-2014, 06:26 AM
Sorry mate I'm not 100% on that. The gent that's sending my brakes over did some checking for me at his GM dealership and they indicated they won't come with the ballasts and they need to be purchased separately. Can your contacts check this to confirm?
Hello Ric, here is the part number and pricing for the ballasts, same for both left and right.

20928264 $216.78

The prices I have been getting are direct from a Chevy Dealer.

Cheers, Ben

R8Timmy
15-01-2014, 08:14 AM
Hi guys,

Ok, I have decided to go for an OTR and tune for my VFR8 however not sure where to go.

Any recommendations? I live in Melbourne.

Is it realistic to expect a 30-40kw rear wheel gain?

Thanks,

Belated response, I did a VCM OTR and tune on my Gen-F R8 and picked up 35rwkw - so your estimate is spot on. Simple mod, holden didnt seem to have a major problem with it, idle sounds really good, and certainly response is allot more punchy - for the price difference I'm glad I didnt get the R8 SV as I've picked up double the power for half the price.

RCBVFGTS
15-01-2014, 09:01 AM
Hello Ric, here is the part number and pricing for the ballasts, same for both left and right.

20928264 $216.78

The prices I have been getting are direct from a Chevy Dealer.

Cheers, Ben


Hi mate

Ok GM Parts Direct site

20928264 - BALLAST

GM PART # 20928264
CATEGORY: Bulbs, Fog, High/Low Beam
PACK QTY: 1
CORE CHARGE: $0.00

List Price: $216.78
Price: $137.87
You Save: $78.91 (36%)

DESCRIPTION: BALLAST


So there is a little bit more of a saving :D

Sniper
18-01-2014, 07:15 PM
I think 4300k will do the job nicely . . . sooner or later the OE lights may turn up at the ight money but I'd have the aftermarket ones hat Nitrate has for now . . . They'd be better than OE in performance too!!!

Some of the newer members on here may not be aware but HSV in Crenno's day had a dabble into HID with limited success

The VY & VZ range had HID as an option in the place of the fogs way back then - I think it was $1600 or something which was a bit exxy but I had them in our VY2 & VZ Maloos . . . they were pretty deadly in the day

The Coupe4 had HID STD too . . . In the spot light location . . . just mother little goodie that will ultimately make the Coupe4 one of the most collectible HSV's ever

Nitrate
19-01-2014, 09:04 AM
Yesterday after spending 7 hours, wash, polish, wax and glaze I looked at how best to attack the headlight assembly. I have come to the conclusion that the best way is to remove the front wheels and arch guards. This will stop the need to pull items out in the engine bay. Geez they have made it really hard to access the headlight just to replace a globe. Also I noticed an alcove in the metal work directly behind the headlight, where the guard and engine bay met. This is where I am thinking of mounting the ballasts. They will both be out of the way and will be virtually unnoticeable.

A question though, I noticed an earth strap bolted to the engine bay, it got me thinking will this be a problem for the ballasts? Was looking at ideas and one was to mount the ballasts with rubber between it and the metal and also use some rubber washers. I recall hearing that there could be an issue but I am unsure, anyway the above should elevate that I guess.

Planning to install later this week, I will post an overview with some pics for those who are interested...

bosscocky
19-01-2014, 10:57 AM
Yesterday after spending 7 hours, wash, polish, wax and glaze I looked at how best to attack the headlight assembly. I have come to the conclusion that the best way is to remove the front wheels and arch guards. This will stop the need to pull items out in the engine bay. Geez they have made it really hard to access the headlight just to replace a globe. Also I noticed an alcove in the metal work directly behind the headlight, where the guard and engine bay met. This is where I am thinking of mounting the ballasts. They will both be out of the way and will be virtually unnoticeable.

A question though, I noticed an earth strap bolted to the engine bay, it got me thinking will this be a problem for the ballasts? Was looking at ideas and one was to mount the ballasts with rubber between it and the metal and also use some rubber washers. I recall hearing that there could be an issue but I am unsure, anyway the above should elevate that I guess.

Planning to install later this week, I will post an overview with some pics for those who are interested...


Some people have too much time on their hands....;):D

RCBVFGTS
19-01-2014, 10:58 AM
Hi mate

How sore are your fingers after 7hrs of polishing :p

I received yesterday a PDF of exactly where the ballast is for the OEM headlights in North America. It mounts to the top of the headlights. Will email it to you shortly.

Now the black panel/shroud covers the tops of the lights so I can't tell if the position the factory ballast mounts too is there on our lights but there is every chance it might be, so I'm thinking if it is you could use your HID upgrade kit, but use the factory ballasts. That way you shouldn't have to remove the headlights HOPEFULLY to do the job.

bosscocky
19-01-2014, 11:00 AM
BTW I spent 3 hrs polishing and waxing the GTO yesterday and only done from the top down to the middle...bottom can be another day. :-)

RCBVFGTS
20-01-2014, 12:02 PM
Hi Ben

I've been checking out the paddle shifter mod with a gent well known in the USA for his custom programs for the BCM and is used by a fair amount of GM dealerships in the USA as apparently their Tech2 won't even talk to their 2014 SS and the GM dealerships have to use an MDI with a GDS (Not sure what that is though)

I'm told that in most GM applications (sans the Corvette and I believe CTSV) the paddles run to the BCM and the BCM sends the shift command to the TCM from there.
The gent also advises me he could probably do a custom BCM calibration to make all of that work in vehicle however he will have to check and see if it goes to the BCM or to the TCM in the SS.

Now our lovely HSV Salesman Chris :D has also just advised me of the following too (huge thanks to Chris for this too!);-

The reason there is no paddle shift option as yet is due to the gear box being pushed back 25mm from the standard HSV box. Those running anything but a GTS should be able to retrofit paddles if they require.

Can anyone advise me is the Tech2 still the primary device Holden/HSV techs use here in Australia for problem solving and recalibrations of the BCM?

Y.B.SHY
20-01-2014, 07:22 PM
Hi Ben,

Your contact in the States is correct the paddles are connected the the BCM which talks to the TCM via GM-LAN aka, can-bus.

The Tech2 was retired a few years back and replaced with the MDI. The Tech2 can preform some limited DTC only functions on the VF. The VE was the last official vehicle supported via the Tech2. The downside to the new MDI is you require a paid subscription to use the software for both diagnostics and programming.

Not to sure where Chris got his info from as adding paddle shift (TapShift) is solely electronic with the exception of the paddles on the steering wheel. There are no mechanical differences to the transmission itself.

RCBVFGTS
21-01-2014, 12:09 PM
Hi Ben,

Your contact in the States is correct the paddles are connected the the BCM which talks to the TCM via GM-LAN aka, can-bus.

The Tech2 was retired a few years back and replaced with the MDI. The Tech2 can preform some limited DTC only functions on the VF. The VE was the last official vehicle supported via the Tech2. The downside to the new MDI is you require a paid subscription to use the software for both diagnostics and programming.

Not to sure where Chris got his info from as adding paddle shift (TapShift) is solely electronic with the exception of the paddles on the steering wheel. There are no mechanical differences to the transmission itself.


Thanks mate

PM sent. Program currently being made in the USA for our BCM for this :D, as too one for DRL's on other models to work in conjunction with the headlights and dim like the VF GTS do.

Nitrate
21-01-2014, 08:41 PM
Thanks mate

PM sent. Program currently being made in the USA for our BCM for this :D, as too one for DRL's on other models to work in conjunction with the headlights and dim like the VF GTS do.
So if we can get confirmation that the wiring is there and we can source a wheel with tap shift, all that is needed is for the BCM to be reprogrammed yes? If so well done guys :)

RCBVFGTS
21-01-2014, 09:46 PM
So if we can get confirmation that the wiring is there and we can source a wheel with tap shift, all that is needed is for the BCM to be reprogrammed yes? If so well done guys :)

Spot on mate! Really looking forward to this albeit I own 6M's not 6A's.

Also working with the same gent for a program to have the DRL's work in conjunction with the headlights as per the GTS and auto dim when the headlights come on, PLUS have the factory TPMS installed into the Driver's Information Centre (DIC) for all VF Commodores which only the Calais and HSV's currently have (will require purchasing the wheel sensors too) just as the 2014 Chevrolet SS has, but we don't :(

Also, looking at the possibility of having oil temp and volts in the "MyLink" too.

Y.B.SHY
27-01-2014, 07:32 PM
Good news all... The wiring is there... :)

I haven't taken the steering wheel off yet to test but I have confirmed the wiring is at the steering column and the BCM.

Now I just need a wheel to complete the testing, and thanks to Nitrate I'll have one soon ;)

jkhsv
01-02-2014, 08:32 PM
LSA supercharged motor for $11,500 brand new

http://www.holmart.com.au/online/prod1782.htm

bosscocky
02-02-2014, 07:58 AM
What's a "create" engine...?

white_lie
02-02-2014, 08:06 AM
A typo... Hopefully the only one in the ad and not the price

RCBVFGTS
02-02-2014, 10:34 AM
LSA supercharged motor for $11,500 brand new

http://www.holmart.com.au/online/prod1782.htm


Hi John, great to see you back around mate :)

I'm undergoing "negotiations" combined with some spousal harassment from the minister for war law and finance to buy this engine. I've been looking for sometime for a HK shell to build as a project and I think that engine would be a great power plant for it :D

mortonview
02-02-2014, 10:24 PM
Good news all... The wiring is there... :)

I haven't taken the steering wheel off yet to test but I have confirmed the wiring is at the steering column and the BCM.

Now I just need a wheel to complete the testing, and thanks to Nitrate I'll have one soon ;)

Hi,
I for one am very interested in fitting a paddle shift wheel to my VF R8 auto. I am going to the states soon, so if anyone can give me a part number for the wheel I will buy/order one. What about swapping the airbag over? Any problems.

Nitrate
04-02-2014, 09:49 PM
Hi,
I for one am very interested in fitting a paddle shift wheel to my VF R8 auto. I am going to the states soon, so if anyone can give me a part number for the wheel I will buy/order one. What about swapping the airbag over? Any problems.
Stay tuned mortonview, we will try and get one fitted in a GTS first. I am sure once this is done and documented it will be shared for everyone here :) By the way you are not too far down the road from me......

mortonview
04-02-2014, 10:25 PM
Stay tuned mortonview, we will try and get one fitted in a GTS first. I am sure once this is done and documented it will be shared for everyone here :) By the way you are not too far down the road from me......

Thanks for that, I await with baited breath.

Nitrate
11-02-2014, 10:59 AM
OK finally delivered in the USA should have these in Australia by Monday :)

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/holmesben/20140210_142426_zpsf5cff0a4.jpg

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/holmesben/20140210_142435_zps9d3641c7.jpg

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/holmesben/20140210_142446_zpse9ffd276.jpg

jkhsv
11-02-2014, 02:27 PM
Nice work..look forward to seeing / hearing more :)

SV300
11-02-2014, 04:32 PM
I believe you will still need to run a wire from the clockspring to BCM to work on MY14 cars..

J

Mikhail
11-02-2014, 09:34 PM
Belly nice!

GenF-GTS
13-02-2014, 12:09 AM
This is who I purchased the aerial from, this is specific to the VF as the VE is different...

http://www.originalpartsgroup.com.au/Antenna%2D%2DAerial%2D%2D%2DHSV_c0DFC2E6F-45DF-4693-A108-8AD149771A62

Does any of this apply or should be of concern?

RADIO RECEPTION NOT AFFECTED IN CITY OR REGIONAL AREA'S

PLEASE NOTE - SOME VEHICLES AUDIO SYSTEMS WILL
HAVE DIFFERENT STRENGTH RECEPTION PERFORMANCE -

GenF-GTS
13-02-2014, 12:57 AM
@Nitrate will you have to change the whole wheel to the ZL1 version of just the rear sections/frame/tap shift so it still looks standard, please post loads of pics and info i think many will be keen on getting tap shift installed if this isn't too hard and it functions OEM with air bags etc.

Y.B.SHY
13-02-2014, 07:19 PM
@Nitrate will you have to change the whole wheel to the ZL1 version of just the rear sections/frame/tap shift so it still looks standard, please post loads of pics and info i think many will be keen on getting tap shift installed if this isn't too hard and it functions OEM with air bags etc.
We will be using the SS wheel for testing purposes only. Once testing (and perhaps programing) has completed and confirmed operational we will be working on changing over the TapShift controls onto the HSV wheel ;)

GenF-GTS
13-02-2014, 10:52 PM
We will be using the SS wheel for testing purposes only. Once testing (and perhaps programing) has completed and confirmed operational we will be working on changing over the TapShift controls onto the HSV wheel ;)

Cant wait to see what you guys come up with and how it all looks in the end

It looks like it feels like Christmas for many people on the forum at the moment. :)

Nitrate
13-02-2014, 11:26 PM
Does any of this apply or should be of concern?

RADIO RECEPTION NOT AFFECTED IN CITY OR REGIONAL AREA'S

PLEASE NOTE - SOME VEHICLES AUDIO SYSTEMS WILL
HAVE DIFFERENT STRENGTH RECEPTION PERFORMANCE -
Used one since October, put it on the same day I took delivery, no noticeable difference in Sydney anyways......

Its only 25 bucks, put it on and see how it goes, you can always put the original back on if you are not happy. Cheers.....

GenF-GTS
14-02-2014, 01:10 AM
Used one since October, put it on the same day I took delivery, no noticeable difference in Sydney anyways......

Its only 25 bucks, put it on and see how it goes, you can always put the original back on if you are not happy. Cheers.....

I live semi rural so I will get one and let you guys know if there is any difference as I will know straight away as some Sydney stations are semi clear etc so either they will get better or worse and then i'll know.

Probably not much concern to most people however if anyone like me is rural it may apply.

I saw the pic of the carbon finish look can you get just plain matt black so it appears OEM.

RCBVFGTS
14-02-2014, 07:34 AM
Ben & Y B Shy:- Steering wheel project is coming along great :D

Ben, I too purchased one of those smaller antennas for both the SSVR and the GTS. I had to do a run to the Gold Coast a few days ago in the SSVR and I can report the radio signal strength dropped in half :( Normally I can go from Ballina to Tweed Heads which is 90km, but I was out of reception at Brunswick Heads which is about halfway

I purchased mine from JHP though which are here http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/VF-COMMODORE-Holden-CRUZE-SHORT-STUMPY-ANTENNA-AERIAL-HSV-MALOO-GTS-SSV-SRi-V-/281258025683?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item417c48e2d3

bosscocky
14-02-2014, 08:20 AM
I like the Made in China sticker ;)
OK finally delivered in the USA should have these in Australia by Monday :)

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/holmesben/20140210_142426_zpsf5cff0a4.jpg

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/holmesben/20140210_142435_zps9d3641c7.jpg

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/holmesben/20140210_142446_zpse9ffd276.jpg

Mikhail
14-02-2014, 11:40 AM
I like the Made in China sticker ;)

You can have mine.

Is the only difference to the HSV wheel the brushed chrome trim as opposed to polished chrome?

moray066
14-02-2014, 04:13 PM
Lol @ Bosscocky, I was going to say something but then bit my tongue, the rest of the car will be made there soon enough, I guess? Lol


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Nitrate
17-02-2014, 06:10 PM
You can have mine.

Is the only difference to the HSV wheel the brushed chrome trim as opposed to polished chrome?
Received the wheels today, the only difference, besides the paddles :), is the black stitching. In relation to the chrome I compared this to the one fitted in the GTS and they both have a combination of polished and brushed. Does yours have white stitching and the chrome combo Mikhail? I am also yet to determine if the leather is the same but at this stage I am thinking yes.....

Mikhail
17-02-2014, 09:31 PM
Yes chrome with white stitching. Looks fine.

SV300
01-03-2014, 03:31 PM
Well this is HID related

I went to fit my spare set from my E series GTS into my VF and all good until you start the car and yet get the canbus error for bulb fail...

So have ordered the updated canbus ballasts so will retry in a couple of weeks.

They are much brighter obviously but don't find the stock lights bad at all especially the high beams.

So waiting....


J


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markost
01-03-2014, 06:50 PM
Hey Graeme, I wanted to let you know about what I ended up choosing in relation to HID's. We had discussed this earlier on....

As fate would have it, I took my youngest boy to the Motor Bike Show that was on in Sydney late last year. I made sure I parked the GTS in a safe spot and when I was getting out of the car a gentleman pulled up in a Mercedes station wagon and said do you mind if I park up close to you. He wanted also to make sure his car was not damaged by other opening doors :) Anyway to cut a long story short, his name was Peter and is the owner of XenonOz. I got chatting to him and told him of what I was trying to achieve and low and behold he had exactly what I was looking for. He has been in the business for many years and has a long history with this type of engineering. Here is the site for your info as well as a pic of what I purchased, only lows at this stage but will do highs later on. I hope you find the site and products of some interest, if you want give Peter a call, he is a great guy and very helpful. Site is: http://www.xenonoz.com/ will also let you know how I go with the install :) Hope all is going well with you...

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/holmesben/DSC_0478_zpscb728c09.jpg

Sure his name wasn't Frank Tidswell ?

I had 50w 6000k Xenon Oz HID's in all my lights in an E3 Maloo. Will be doing the same with my Gen F shortly. they really are a good product.......Not looking forward to dropping the front bar again to do so though !!!!!!!

SV300
01-03-2014, 07:44 PM
Well maybe the GTS might require the front bar drop, but others only need the RH inner guard to be opened for access on that side.

From looking at the kit parts, I don't see the price difference from 100 to 500. My kit (now with the canbus ballasts) is still under $100. It's like packaging in products to make them look more expensive.

Just my opinion.

J


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markost
01-03-2014, 08:02 PM
I thought much the same way back with my E1 Maloo several years ago. When they are new, they all seem to be relatively equal. It's only after 12-18 months of use that the better ( and usually more expensive ones ) show their superiority.

Dropping the bar is a cert when changing all globes unfortunately. !

GenF-GTS
05-03-2014, 03:14 PM
Whats the latest with the steering wheel with the paddles?

GenF-GTS
05-03-2014, 11:27 PM
Not sure if this helps but the 2014 Chevy SS has the paddles fitted.....

http://www.chevrolet.com/content/chevrolet/northamerica/usa/nscwebsite/en/index/chevy-performance/2014-ss/photos-and-videos/interior/jcr:content/mm_gal_c2/thumbnailArea/mm_gal_item_c2_20.img_resize.img_stage._2.jpg

The wheel looks the same to me

http://www.hsv.com.au/Gen-F/images/see/gts/HSV-Gen-F-GTS-Interior-1-lg.jpg

dgp
06-03-2014, 04:48 AM
Not sure if this helps but the 2014 Chevy SS has the paddles fitted.....

http://www.chevrolet.com/content/chevrolet/northamerica/usa/nscwebsite/en/index/chevy-performance/2014-ss/photos-and-videos/interior/jcr:content/mm_gal_c2/thumbnailArea/mm_gal_item_c2_20.img_resize.img_stage._2.jpg

The wheel looks the same to me

http://www.hsv.com.au/Gen-F/images/see/gts/HSV-Gen-F-GTS-Interior-1-lg.jpg

That is what the discussion is all about

Mikhail
06-03-2014, 09:13 AM
The wheel is the same except for black stitching instead of white.

GenF-GTS
06-03-2014, 12:34 PM
The wheel is the same except for black stitching instead of white.

ahh yeah I can see that....i do wonder how it is all going though there has been no updates.

Additionally I have read the tap shift will be good for road racing, however it is no good for drag racing you are better of putting it in manual sports mode and letting it shift by itself, apparently it will rev harder than in drive, it will take off iin 1st compared to 2nd when in drive and it also knows better shift points than what you can calculate, the only benefit at a race track would be the down shifting aspect when you want to use it to slow down otherwise can you calculate a billion times over what the best shift points are....lol

markost
28-03-2014, 11:11 PM
Well maybe the GTS might require the front bar drop, but others only need the RH inner guard to be opened for access on that side.

From looking at the kit parts, I don't see the price difference from 100 to 500. My kit (now with the canbus ballasts) is still under $100. It's like packaging in products to make them look more expensive.


Just had Powertorque fit a full set of 55w HID's into the Gen F Maloo (H7, H9, H11 Spots which used to be H3 in the E3). Massive job. There is nowhere near the room in the engine bay of a Gen F as there was in the E3 ( Even less with the Supercharger/Intercooler hardware ). Good thing I got them to it rather than attempt the job myself.


http://www.bozor8.com/images/HID%27s%20(2).JPG


http://www.bozor8.com/images/HID%27s%20(3).JPG

This installation bypasses the host wiring system. I do get a warning from the Body Control Module display on the dash asking to check both low beam globes. I simply clear this via the Menu button on the indicator stalk. Not sure if this error message can be cleared by a dealer. Below is the wiring diagram used.

http://www.bozor8.com/images/Wiring%20Loom.png

As in the E Series, the H7 Globe for Low beam needs to have the black mounting housing modified to allow the electrode to be at the bottom when being installed. If you do not do this you will get a black vertical stripe in the centre of your beam. All globes should be installed this way but the H9 and H11 ( H3 for the E Series ) do not need to be modified.

Below is an incorrect installation. I'll post the correct set up photo shortly.

http://www.bozor8.com/images/HID%27s%20(1).JPG

From an earlier E1 Maloo. When installed with the electrodes facing down, the black areas disappear.

http://www.bozor8.com/images/Faulty%20HID%20Install%20(1).JPG

SV300
29-03-2014, 11:59 AM
Hmm yep agree there

I had to remove right front wheel and inner guard to do the drivers side low beam

Passenger side a lot easier with the VCM intake now

Lights now match LEDs and crisp clean lights again as per my E series GTS

J


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VFR8
29-03-2014, 12:43 PM
If either of you guys could take some pics it would be great :cool:

mortonview
30-03-2014, 02:18 PM
Yes chrome with white stitching. Looks fine.

Hi,
I'd also like to know what's happening with the paddle shift experiment. Did swap over easily with no problems.
Thanks

Mikhail
30-03-2014, 03:47 PM
Still waiting.

SV300
30-03-2014, 04:13 PM
If either of you guys could take some pics it would be great :cool:

Well this is from the outside with low beams on. I have had an issue with how I mounted due to space so have removed and need to replace a part and re-install again.

Will post installed pics when done. It's the drivers side which is the pain.

5033


J


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Nitrate
02-05-2014, 06:16 PM
Stayed tuned guys, apologies....

Should see some results in the next couple of weeks!

markost
02-05-2014, 06:47 PM
Incorrect orientation of the low beam globes

http://bozor8.com/images/HID%27s%20(1).JPG

Correct orientation of the low beam globe

http://bozor8.com/images/Gen%20F%20Correct%20Installation.JPG

All Lights. All Globes are 55w 6000k

http://bozor8.com/images/Gen%20F%20All%20HID%27s.JPG

Only Place we could fit the Ballasts

http://bozor8.com/images/HID%27s%20(2).JPG

Nitrate
02-05-2014, 07:32 PM
Mine still sitting in a box, feel bad that I haven't done anything. At least someone has :)

SV300
03-05-2014, 08:51 AM
A close up...

5065

J


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VFR8
03-05-2014, 11:39 AM
Seems people are using these:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/161226837378


No ballasts, no CANBUS errors... Could be another option?

Sniper
03-05-2014, 11:57 AM
Seems people are using these:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/161226837378


No ballasts, no CANBUS errors... Could be another option?

Looks the goods . . I want 4300K though . . . I think 6000 is a tad too blue and obvious . .

Nitrate
03-05-2014, 12:37 PM
Looks the goods . . I want 4300K though . . . I think 6000 is a tad too blue and obvious . .
Ah Graeme have you given it away :) what HSV are you referring to?

markost
03-05-2014, 01:29 PM
Looks the goods . . I want 4300K though . . . I think 6000 is a tad too blue and obvious . .

4300k is about the same as the original Halogen's. 5000k has a tad of yellow, 6000k is white. 7000k is blueish green.
have a look in my previous post. Strangely enough the photo colour is pretty spot on. ! I suppose it comes down to what lights you get and where from. If you want to go 35w for the low beams, then Philips 5000k is your best bet.

As you go up in colour, you loose lumen's. 55w is a little bright for low beam. I just angle mine down a little to avoid flashing oncoming traffic. That's where 35w / 5000k would be a good choice for lower wattage v light output. I recon SV300's photo may have been taken before the globe had time to warm up and stabilize. Am I right here mate ?

SV300
03-05-2014, 03:44 PM
My photo was taken probably after a minute or so and was stabilized already. Probably its the angle as otherwise the phone camera has trouble taking the photo head on..

I would agree though that 55w in low beam is pushing it....there are times i see a HID car with super-bright low beams and its worth flashing but its low beam..so not much you can do.

Look closely at the photo though..


J

VFR8
03-05-2014, 03:59 PM
Looks the goods . . I want 4300K though . . . I think 6000 is a tad too blue and obvious . .

Yeah agreed. 6000k is a bit too much

markost
03-05-2014, 04:16 PM
Yeah agreed. 6000k is a bit too much

5000k is meant to be daylight..Gives the best definition of colour which means the best contrast of objects at night....But I suppose, as always.....everyone to their own. In saying that though, I've had 55w - 6000k HID kits which look completely different in colour, ranging from warm white to blue even though they should be the same. Some of those have been from the same manufacturer as well. It seems like quality control in a lot of kits is pretty ordinary. You'll see below that the colour of this kit was different straight out of the box. The one on the left has a slight green hue and the right had a purple hue. It wasn't a cheap kit either.

http://bozor8.com/images/HID%27s%20(1).JPG

The retailer replaced the globes and the result is below.....

http://bozor8.com/images/Gen%20F%20Correct%20Installation.JPG

I've been through about 20 kits in my last four HSV's and every time there is a surprise. Mostly not favourable. There is one manufacturer though ( a guy out of Orange N.S.W ) who's lights have been of consistently good albeit at a higher cost.

VFR8
03-05-2014, 04:25 PM
Oh yeah exactly, quantity control is troublesome out of China

I've had lots of issues with indoor LED lightning and all associated. Some wholesalers are even pulling products fairly often due to it so at times you can't even source the same brand/type for periods of time... Most annoying.

Nitrate
23-05-2014, 05:43 PM
Harrop Stage II
Harrop Full Exhaust with Carbon Tips (Photo's tomorrow)
Sam's chosen Cam
(posted here because, refer my post #14)

It's awesome :)

Try for video tomorrow....

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/holmesben/Dyno_zps0c977d36.jpg

Sniper
23-05-2014, 06:37 PM
That's a very tidy result Ben . . . the throttle response and rate of acceleration from 1300-4000RPM would feel like nothing you've ever driven . . .

The graph also shows impeccable valvetrain harmonics which is a result of Sam using his latest workshop toy - a Spintron

Did he show you that trick piece of gear?

jkhsv
23-05-2014, 06:42 PM
Nice work Ben......

white_lie
23-05-2014, 08:16 PM
That's a very tidy result Ben . . . the throttle response and rate of acceleration from 1300-4000RPM would feel like nothing you've ever driven . . .



Agreed, that big kick of an increase in low end torque will feel a lot more impressive than the gain in the top end

07GTS
23-05-2014, 09:50 PM
agreed, nice result its amazing the torque these things can punch out down low....

Mikhail
23-05-2014, 10:41 PM
Very impressive, drive report as soon as you can please.