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Jacked up
14-02-2004, 04:14 AM
Hi all.
I am new to this forum, and I am delving into the other side..
I just sold my beloved 2003 EVO 6 WRX (with extensive work done by AVO), and I was planning to replace it with a 2004 Sti.. I love Subies....
However, I am really considering a 2004 HSV coupe. It HAS to be manual, and these seem very hard to find.
I also really love the 2004 series 3 monaro. I tested both the Monaro and HSV coupe yesterday. The HSV was auto, and the monaro manual. Everyone was telling me how BAD the manual gearbox and ratios are in these cars, however, to be honest, I really enjoyed it. AUTO is very uninspiring...
What are your thoughts on HSV Coupe manual vs Subaru Sti ?
Am I crazy even considering the Monaro ?
How 'Quick' is the GTO in real terms, and how much work can you do to them to get a little bit more....

Don't telll anyone form the wrx forum that I am here....

:? :D

white_lie
14-02-2004, 09:54 AM
Being on a HSV forum, you're going to get biased answers to the Monaro Coupe Vs Subaru STi question, but we can give more than enough info about the Coupe to sell you :lol:

I take it you're looking at a GTO rather than a GTS?
Both cars are very nice, but the GTS is a leap ahead of everything else IMO. Stock as a rock, they'll do very low 13's. I think the GTO does mid to high 13's.

First mods I would do to any Gen3 would be to put a good exhaust on it, remove the MAF, CAI and get it retuned. Then change the diff ratio to 3.9's and you'll be laughing. Its not hard to get 12 second passes out of the Gen3's with only bolt ons and with the 6th gear in a manual, you'll still have great economy on the open road.

The only reason why a WRX will get away from a Gen3 would be traction off the line :)

SirHSV
14-02-2004, 05:23 PM
Welcome Jacked up :D
We love to see people delve into the other side so welcome..
What can I say have a look at my Monaro its for sale it has about 320 to 330kw its been modified and it ran a 251RWKW on the Dyno so if you are interested the car is in Melbourne and its a manual... I’ve Dragged Subies no problem of the line was a problem with traction big time but once she hooked up it was no problem catching up, I’m not sure about Nissan GTRs but I thing she would do well up against those cars.
If you want there is always supercharging mann then she will rock and roll. :lol:
Check out the link below:
http://www.hsvforum.com.au/viewtopic.php?t=88

CoupeMann
20-04-2004, 06:31 PM
Hi all.
I am new to this forum, and I am delving into the other side..
I just sold my beloved 2003 EVO 6 WRX (with extensive work done by AVO), and I was planning to replace it with a 2004 Sti.. I love Subies....
However, I am really considering a 2004 HSV coupe. It HAS to be manual, and these seem very hard to find.
I also really love the 2004 series 3 monaro. I tested both the Monaro and HSV coupe yesterday. The HSV was auto, and the monaro manual. Everyone was telling me how BAD the manual gearbox and ratios are in these cars, however, to be honest, I really enjoyed it. AUTO is very uninspiring...
What are your thoughts on HSV Coupe manual vs Subaru Sti ?
Am I crazy even considering the Monaro ?
How 'Quick' is the GTO in real terms, and how much work can you do to them to get a little bit more....

Don't telll anyone form the wrx forum that I am here....

:? :D

What did you end up purchasing?

HSV GOD
08-08-2005, 04:11 AM
HSV COUPE!!!!!!!!!!! there i made your decision for you i've done the hard yards now go and buy it thank you........ end of conversation :wink:

-HSV-
08-08-2005, 11:23 AM
the coupe for sure, this is a HSV forum, isnt it? :p

ozemuscle1
08-08-2005, 10:55 PM
in reality, the HSV would be easier to live with on a day to day basis, its got cushy leather, and other comfort items. on a track, the STi would absolutely destroy the HSV, and adding power wont nessicarily help either. i'd take the HSV, not particularly because of any biases, but because its likely to be more practical.

In terms of tuning, theres a tonne of stuff avaliable for the LS1 GTO, anywhere from a slight tune up, to massive 600hp+ kits.

V8 HSV
09-08-2005, 04:59 AM
Surely no contest but they were compared in blighty recently with our VXR Monaro (your HSV/GTO spec) and the VXR came tops. Our Top Gear/Jeremy Clarkson show gives it 5 stars and had it reviewed last night even though it is being axed in March 06 unless we buy so many you can't say no to us

If it were rallies and country road dominance I would go Japanese but for spirited driving, comfort with torque then the HSV comes tops, but then I'm a fat old bloke, fancy an Aerial Atom, quicker than a bike, even on a track!

opinionated pommy hsv looney

ozemuscle1
09-08-2005, 09:44 PM
Surely no contest but they were compared in blighty recently with our VXR Monaro (your HSV/GTO spec) and the VXR came tops. Our Top Gear/Jeremy Clarkson show gives it 5 stars and had it reviewed last night even though it is being axed in March 06 unless we buy so many you can't say no to us

If it were rallies and country road dominance I would go Japanese but for spirited driving, comfort with torque then the HSV comes tops, but then I'm a fat old bloke, fancy an Aerial Atom, quicker than a bike, even on a track!

opinionated pommy hsv looneyTop Gears a great show, i watch it whenever i can.

Generation Motorsport
14-08-2005, 10:16 AM
we recently went on a cruise along a beautiful piece of road, with senery and stuff (apperantly), on the flats and high speed bends, the 2005 sti was pulling well, and away from a cv8, with an exhaust, but no tune, but up the hills, the cv8 would pull it in, our own cv8 left em all behind. looking forward to a day at eastern creek, coming up soon. will try to post lap times and pics.
cheers
GM

-HSV-
14-08-2005, 01:17 PM
we recently went on a cruise along a beautiful piece of road, with senery and stuff (apperantly), on the flats and high speed bends, the 2005 sti was pulling well, and away from a cv8, with an exhaust, but no tune, but up the hills, the cv8 would pull it in, our own cv8 left em all behind. looking forward to a day at eastern creek, coming up soon. will try to post lap times and pics.
cheers
GMsounds great, make sure you keep us updated with it all :D

Wilko21
14-08-2005, 02:32 PM
If you get a monaro/hsv coupe get an LS1 edit done to the engine. It will give it something like 40extra RW/KW for under $2,000.

Generation Motorsport
14-08-2005, 03:29 PM
we specialise in tuning gen111's, check us out in our profile, our cv8 run 13.2 ( with too much wheelspin), on standard street tyres, and is making over 320 kw and returns 8.6lt/100k on a trip, and around 15lt around town, with a MAF , stock air box ect.........

Wilko21
15-08-2005, 06:32 PM
we specialise in tuning gen111's, check us out in our profile, our cv8 run 13.2 ( with too much wheelspin), on standard street tyres, and is making over 320 kw and returns 8.6lt/100k on a trip, and around 15lt around town, with a MAF , stock air box ect.........

Sounds nice! How much? And is that an LS1 Edit or other modifications.

Generation Motorsport
16-08-2005, 09:49 AM
we use VCM Suit and with no other mods, other than exhaust and a K+N air filter. Full tuning price is $1100 inc gst.
cheers GM